Reasons to be Discharged in Bootcamp
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11 Apr 2012 02:22 PM
    During basic training some people get reverted & are in Cape May longer then 8 weeks. Other people just feel they simply "can't" do it anymore & give up. Are there any other reasons recruits leave basic training early (besides if u fail an initial drug test etc.) or does it all rely on your actions & what you choose. Can CC's tell you that they think your not capable & make you leave or if u reach a max # of reversions your forced to be discharged?
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    11 Apr 2012 02:23 PM
    I believe the max allowed is 3. Then they show you the door.
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    11 Apr 2012 04:46 PM
    People can be discharged for medical, academic, or unsuitability reasons. The CCs will do everything they can to retain you and train you to standards. Three reversions/rephasings is typically the limit.
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    11 Apr 2012 06:10 PM
    I've been told that they have reverted people all the way back to the beginning before. Idk if they still do it and I haven't seen it happen, but I've seen someone get reverted 4 companies back and are still in boot camp. Other than that, go along with what Gears said. Another reason people get discharged is because they quit, and the biggest reasons for that are that they don't like their orders, they find it too mentally challenging, or they don't want to try and strive to do their best. We had a girl who quit because she got stationed on a cutter and that wasn't what she wanted. Dumbest reason I've seen so far. Why are you in the coast guard if you don't wanna be on the water? lol
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    11 Apr 2012 06:22 PM
    1 reversion 4 companies back is not the same thing as 4 reversions. In Jim's company, after the week 7 off base liberty he had a few shipmates, he can't remember if it was 4 or 5 that were dumped all the way back to week 3. I don't know what they did on that liberty but it was not anything good! So they went from starting their 8th and final week and went all the way back to week 3! But that was only counted as one reversion.
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    11 Apr 2012 06:29 PM
    I had a guy graduate with us that was there for almost a year. Broke his arm and was put in suspended status until he healed. I also saw people kicked out instead of a reversion and visa versa.
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    11 Apr 2012 09:45 PM
    Sad thing here is that those getting discharged have taken the opportunity to join away from a perfectly good applicant that got passed over for these duds that get discharged for not liking it or the ability to adjust...sad.
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    12 Apr 2012 08:38 PM
    Posted By Old Guard2 on 11 Apr 2012 07:22 PM
    1 reversion 4 companies back is not the same thing as 4 reversions. In Jim's company, after the week 7 off base liberty he had a few shipmates, he can't remember if it was 4 or 5 that were dumped all the way back to week 3. I don't know what they did on that liberty but it was not anything good! So they went from starting their 8th and final week and went all the way back to week 3! But that was only counted as one reversion.
    I just got back from school in Cape May and while there I saw a week 7 female  who got orders to a cutter and all of a sudden decided she wasn't suited for the military lifestyle and she'd been trying to acclimate since she'd gotten there. I also did see a male recruit who not only got reverted back to the beginning again due to gaps in ship dates (although he didn't have to go through forming week again), but ultimately he couldn't hack it and he went home. It kind of sucked when we found his blouses at the Lucky Bag, but we can't keep them all.

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    12 Apr 2012 09:31 PM
    sheesh it seems if someone decides to up and quit because they don't like their orders they should have to repay the govt for the training costs...however if someone gave it their all and just couldn't do it-they should get a pass on repayment. This is a commitment after all...
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    17 May 2015 06:56 PM
    My son got reverted twice so far, once for not getting his haircut and the other for failing rack inspection. He likes his current company a lot better and it seems as though the CC really likes him. They made him one of the instructors for MOA, he got his orders and made arrangements for travel.

    He's on his 6th week and after doing so well, failed to cover his pillow (didn't have time in the 15 min given) and now has to meet with the board so they can decide whether to revert him a 3rd time, discharge him or allow him to graduate. Says his current CC will be there to try and keep him so he can graduate but to prevent any bias, the board has requested for the previous 2 CC's to be there as well. 

    What are the chances that he won't graduate? Im nervous for him since he really wants this and would like to graduate. 
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    17 May 2015 07:22 PM
    Good luck to your son.

    I saw one kid get reverted 3 times, and after going to the board he was sent back to forming week. Unfortunately nobody here can predict the outcome of your son's situation. I honestly believe, though, that the CC's want to see motivated recruits succeed.
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    17 May 2015 08:02 PM
    Most people are discharged from boot camp because they quit and can't pass the initial PT test. Those are the biggest reasons.
    Other reasons include fail medical exam, fail dental exam, fail academically as well as others noted.
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    17 May 2015 08:37 PM
    Thank you.
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    18 May 2015 03:28 PM
    MM....why didn't your son get his hair cut? Then he failed rack inspection? Reverted but "likes" this company better? Then can't cover his pillow? First off, who cares which company he "likes" better...you do what you have to do to be part of the team, to be the guy/gal your fellow recruits can count on. I don't mean to sound harsh but these all sound like excuses, not reasons.
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    20 May 2015 01:10 PM
    Guarantee there is a lot more to this than you are telling here and certainly your son is not telling you all the information you would want to know.
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    20 May 2015 03:21 PM
    Alright, let's not make a mother's worry that much more. He is telling her what he feels is necessary and is appropriate for the situation. Making her feel like he isn't being completely honest or intentionally failing to meet objectives isn't going to make things any easier on already frazzled nerves. I know, I have a Coastie that was reverted. It was nerve wracking to say the least. But he persevered and I think is a better Coastie for the trials and tribulations. When her recruit comes home, after graduation, I'm sure then blanks can be filled in. Either way, reversion in boot camp means nothing once you are out in the fleet. It is a forgotten hiccup in what will hopefully be a long and fruitful career.

    As I like to say, if you aren't part of the solution, you are my mother. Don't be my mother. Help, support, guide but keep the negativity to a minimum. This is a mom worried about her child. She might not have much, if any, exposure to military life and all of its quirks and necessities. She turned to us for answers and guidance. Please help to provide that.
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    20 May 2015 04:23 PM
    Thank you Old Guard 2, I really appreciate it. All I've shared is all I know especially when I only have 5 minutes with him when he calls.

    After seeing the last 2 previous responses, I wasn't going to come back to this site & just delete my account that I newly created for help until I received your e-mail this evening. Its been tough for me as a mom since he is my ONLY family and I had him before I even turned 18. I don't personally know anyone in the military so this is where I turned to. Mothers Day was the worse for me, not having him around. 

    To answer some questions, he's not intentionally trying to fail. He never had a father figure but has a heart of gold and a passion to help others (also helped a few of his classmates from committing suicide) so this whole thing is very new to him & I'm sure, a difficult but fruitful experience. In the end, he will be stronger because of it & I know he's in the right place.  

    Old Guard 2, once again, I truly thank you for your positive & inspirational words and for the time you took to respond. Your feedback and sharing your son's experience has lightened my heavy heart. 

    Thanks again, I really appreciat it.
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    20 May 2015 05:34 PM
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    20 May 2015 09:46 PM
    Your boy sounds like a good man. I'm sure it was hard for him on mother's day to be away from you. I truly hope he is doing well. Please keep us updated. Let us know if you need anything else. We will help.
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    22 May 2015 06:44 AM
    Hear Hear Old Guard.
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    22 May 2015 08:54 AM
    It's not our place to speculate on someones circumstance, especially during boot camp since it's such a trying time for many recruits.
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    09 Nov 2015 05:35 PM
    Does anyone know how this turned out for Military Mom's son? My son is in the exact same boat right now, facing review tomorrow, and I am a nervous wreck.
    If anyone is willing to talk with me about this, please send me an email. I could really use some information. Thank you
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    09 Nov 2015 06:59 PM
    someone pissed in my canteen. he was sent home soon after that.
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    18 Nov 2015 12:33 PM
    I got a phone call from my son last night saying he is going to be sent home after he failed on the physical push ups by 3. 

    He was reverted twice before that and he was at RHE for the last three days before been told he was going to be discharged. I just need answers about what happened if three days before we were told he would joy another company. 
    I know he doesn't want to quit and he is working hard because he wants to succeed. I know he is devastated with the discharge news. 

    Please, let me know what is happening and what next. Can he go back if yes when?! 
    Thank you, 
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    18 Nov 2015 01:13 PM
    I'm sorry your son is being discharged. It does happen. He would have joined another company had he passed the physical portion of things. If he still could not pass, even by 3 push ups, they will discharge. His eligibility to reenlist will be based on his RE code on the papers. Was he reverted the other times due to failed portions of the physical fitness test (PFT)? He would be able to speak to a recruiter in 6 months (minimum) and see about going back. If there were other reasons and there was possibly a failure to adapt. No, he probably will not be able to try again. I am sure they will lay out all of his options for him at Cape May. Again, I am sorry he didn't make it. He should have been provided the PFT requirements and should have been able to pass those requirements prior to shipping to boot camp. Best of luck.
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    18 Nov 2015 01:29 PM
    Thank you for you answer. 
    As far as we were told he only failed the push-ups in all the retesting. My son is still in Cape May waiting to be sent home on the same day he was supposed to be graduating with his company. 

    Seems most likely he will be able to join back the Coast Guard better prepared then. 
    Best regards, 
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    01 Jan 2016 02:54 PM
    I know that I'm late to this thread. In reading what is posted coast guard Boot camp seems worse than what the marines go through. rolled back for not passing a rack inspection? I know going through Navy Boot camp in the 80s at navy recruit depot San Diego was tough but if we messed up we were mashed on the grinder. The only way you got rolled was being for health reasons, unable to comply or adapt to the Navy, or just being a soup sandwich from day one. Reading all this one can get the impression that you get rolled back for picking your nose wrong and any other minor infractions. Correct me if I'm wrong? If some kid reads this it might scare the crud out of him and set them up for failure.
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    01 Jan 2016 03:54 PM
    i like to think of it as a bit of friendly motivation to come in knowing what youre getting into. its a serious deal and should be treated as such. i saw a video of some guy get in trouble because he had a mosquito biting his face and he decided to scratch while standing at attention in formation.
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    01 Jan 2016 04:20 PM
    While it may seem like recruits get reverted for something simple like failing a rack inspection, picking their nose wrong, etc, believe me the majority of those events are just tipping points for the recruits. From what I saw at boot camp, most individuals who were reverted or even sent to RAMP showed a consistent pattern of underperforming, lack of focus, lack of motivation, lack of integrity, etc.
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    01 Jan 2016 05:16 PM
    Ok, that makes more scence. So basically it is your typical soup sandwich that gets rolled.
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    10 Jan 2016 06:09 PM
    For me, 95% of the stress at boot camp was the prospect of being reverted. It's by design. It is a tool.
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    13 Feb 2016 06:27 PM
    Once a person has been discharged , how long is the procces to be out of training?
    How many days? And can he/she change his/her decision?
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    13 Feb 2016 09:15 PM
    If they are being discharged, they don't have any mind to change. The CG had said bye bye. In some cases they can reapply but it depends upon the reason for the discharge. If the recruit quit, it isn't absolute but it is pretty close to 99% never going to get back in.
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    16 May 2017 09:28 PM
    You're so informative so I wanted to get your opinion. I got a call from my friend in boot camp tonight I'm thinking the call will be about this orders instead it was to tell me he is being discharged! 😔 He went on to say he would have to stay there 2-3 weeks after his graduation date which was set for June 9th. Why does he have to stay if he is being discharged?  He sounded so sad and I tried to encourage him to stay but his mind is made up. Also he said he is somewhere different now and he can call daily he somewhere different from his company. Can you maybe help me figure out what he has done. I feel like he just quit 😔
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    16 May 2017 10:16 PM
    Anything we would say is just speculation because we don't have many facts. The only reason I've heard of anybody staying after a graduation date is due to injury. They typically won't release you until you are healed. If this is the case, he will get paid until his very last day. That is what comes to the top of my head when I read your question.
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    17 May 2017 06:06 AM
    Thank you for the reply. I wondered why they would make him stay. He says he got into it with his CC but you know right now emotions are very high and everything probably isn't being told. I received the call around 8:36p last night and showed from Wildwood NJ. To make it to week 5 is an accomplishment I wish he would stay even though whatever he has went through I tried to tell him this isn't anything personal it's making you grow up and tackle things. Just really hate it from him....thanks for your response he told me to continue writing letters but now I don't have a clue where to send them he says he will call again tonight.
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    17 May 2017 09:03 AM
    I can't think of any reason you should really get into it with your CC. I have no clue what may have happened or why they would be making him stay late. Anybody in my company that was disruptive was removed and sent home pretty quickly. Good luck with everything.
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    17 May 2017 10:26 AM
    Yea, who knows but thanks for trying to help me.  Maybe he just decided it wasn't for him and is leaving..
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    02 Jun 2017 03:08 PM
    My son completed week 4 and was just sent home for joking around about getting a red belt right before graduation and was overheard by an instructor...my son do amazing physically and academics... they stated he needs to speak to his recruiter about getting a waiver to get back into bootcamp...what happens at this point? HELP!
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    04 Jun 2017 10:22 PM
    Whats a red belt? I'm sure there is more to the story than just joking around once. What happens next is he is given a code on his discharge papers and it really depends on what code they use as to when and if he can reapply. It also depends on if a recruiter wants to take another chance on him.
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    08 Jul 2017 01:22 AM
    Posted By mkelly on 04 Jun 2017 11:22 PM
    Whats a red belt? I'm sure there is more to the story than just joking around once. What happens next is he is given a code on his discharge papers and it really depends on what code they use as to when and if he can reapply. It also depends on if a recruiter wants to take another chance on him.

    Parents want to always believe their kids, but there has got to be something deeper and more than just joking about getting a red belt.
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    03 Aug 2017 08:36 AM
    My cousin was injured while performing his first physical fitness assessment (torn acl) he got up during the run and pressed on, but missed it by over 5 mins. He then tried to push past it and made 2nd attempt of the PFA on Monday, nevertheless, his knee injury was too much, couldn't even complete in 15 mins (he ran the 1.5 sub 10min prior to camp) He chose not to be treated at base and he was R3 discharged, shipped home on Friday. It appears that not taking treatment on base was a big mistake, he's coded as pfa failure, "possible" re-enlist in 6 months. This doesn't make sense to me? what is the protocol for sustaining an injury during the pfa which prevents you from passing? what are options from here to get back in?
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    05 Aug 2017 02:34 PM
    If you get injured in boot camp don't hide it or press on! The people who got injured in my company were just stuck at cape May in RHE until they healed and could complete the training. But a torn acl is a serious injury that requires a lot of healing time so it doesn't make sense to keep your cousin there. So the option is to try to reenlist again after the 6 months.
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    05 Aug 2017 09:25 PM
    Why would be refuse care at Cape May? That's the best place to get care. Probably not the smartest decision.
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    03 Apr 2019 09:13 AM
    What type of forms do you fill out once you initially get to boot camp itself during that first Tuesday night, and the following days of forming week??
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    07 Apr 2019 05:21 AM
    Madmark22, I noticed you already posted this in General Questions. Please only post once. If you need an immediate answer you can “bump” your other question politely. Some people on this forum that would have your answers are busy working. Also, this question does not pertain to being discharged in boot camp. Thanks.
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    13 Jun 2019 01:06 PM
    Question: My kid left for USCG bootcamp 3 weeks ago and we received a call last week that he was in RHE for a possible separated shoulder (they believe). I guess based on the doctor, he either gets discharged or heals and gets reverted...his appointment with the base doctor was yesterday. How long before we find out if he's getting discharged or reverted? Its a parent thing, not knowing is killing us.

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    17 Jun 2019 06:48 AM
    They will let him call home as soon as they make a determination. That call will be either to say "Pick me up at the airport" or "I'll be in medical for a while, I'll let you know my new company as soon as I have one." There is no rushing the process and you just have to stand by, as much as I know it is killing you to do that. It would make me crazy too! Good news, even if they discharge him and send him home, he can easily reapply and go back. Hang in there, you'll get notified eventually. Best of luck!
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