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24 Jul 2009 09:19 PM
    Sad call today. My SR had already gotten her assignment. Does this mean she will get a new one? Also, she was Color Guard. Is that gone? cry
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    24 Jul 2009 10:54 PM
    Dis she say why she was reverted?


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    24 Jul 2009 11:44 PM
    Yes. She was allowed a very quick phone call to us. Also, since I wrote the above post, my husband has spoken with her new CC who was kind enough to call us! (I will love him forever for that!) A male friend of our daughter's evidently came into her bunk room, bad enough, but he was supposed to be on watch! Her violation was that she failed to report it. Her new CC said that he was told she was an otherwise very good recruit. He also told us that she will in all liklihood go to her original assignment which is Honolulu! She also gets to maintain her position in the Color Guard! She was so upset when she called us today-she was choking back tears and forgot to tell us where she was stationed! The new CC called out to her while we were on the phone with him and I could hear her in the background answering his question about her assignment. It was such a relief to hear her call back to him sounding very strong! It is a shame that she won't be with her colleagues from the past 5 weeks, but it is a great lesson for her as well. PS, the male was reverted for 3 weeks! I just pray that this doesn't take the wind out of her sails!
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    24 Jul 2009 11:56 PM
    Some of the BEST Coasties spent more than 8 weeks at Cape May. I'm sorry to hear about this.


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    25 Jul 2009 12:05 AM
    lgt-I am in Hawaii - if your daughter needs anything, please have her look me up. I live on the North Shore of Oahu so a little far from her base but still on the same island. I will PM you with my contact info.


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    25 Jul 2009 12:17 AM
    Thank you so much pepperdoggie and Heather's Mom! I hope that others read these posts before they go to boot camp! Just yesterday we got a great letter from her and we thought we were home free. What a difference a day makes! Thanks again for your support!<!-- Edit -->

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    25 Jul 2009 12:44 AM
    My son got reverted 8 weeks in AST school.
    He bump into debris in the pool while rescueing three instructors three weeks before his graduation date. That was his final test. He didn't make it.
    He went before a panel and they decided to keep him.
    He hopes to make it to Aug28. He loves the CG. He'll start his 8th year in Aug. Going for 20. He never had so much fun.


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    25 Jul 2009 12:57 AM
    So sorry to hear that. What a rough way to have to learn. I'm dreading getting similar news, especially since his sister had to request his graduation day off from work weeks ago and if his graduation date changes, she's out of luck. I'll be praying for your dd.
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    25 Jul 2009 01:26 AM
    It sounds to me like both you and your daughter have the right take on the whole thing. It's no fun but it's not the end of the world either. She's probably learned a very valuable lesson also, one that might save her from even worse grief down the road someday.

    For her sake, I really do hope she gets to keep her assignment. The Jarvis or the Rush, by any chance?
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    25 Jul 2009 01:46 AM
    lgt,

    Take it from a mom who has been there... it is the end of the world at the moment. But the moment passes. We were lucky enough to get the call twice! My son enjoyed Cape May so much he decided to go for 10 weeks. He started in Echo, moved along to Foxtrot and finished out with Golf. It is what it is. Yes, it was heart breaking, disturbing, disheartening... but you know what, we are ok with it now. He is in the fleet, he loves it, he is doing well... what happened in Cape May, stays in Cape May. I'm not saying the Echo & Foxtrot CC's were bad, not at all... But he absolutely loved Chief Ruchser and admires him greatly. There is a reason for these things, we don't know what they are now, we might not know for 20 years, we may never know... just go with the idea someone somewhere has a plan and this is part & parcel of that plan.

    My son was absollutely able to keep his orders. I'm sure your daughter will as well. If you need someone to chat with... Like I said, been there, done that have the battle scars to prove it!

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    25 Jul 2009 11:36 AM
    Mis3gal- I think my daughter is in your loved one's Company now! I will see you at graduation! Weprop- she will be at Station Honolulu. Sunny717- what a HUGE relief for you all when they allowed him to stay in! You guys are all so wonderful, such a comfort to me! Macie I have read about Colin before. Your words of wisdom are invaluable! I do believe that there was an important reason for this lesson (lessons?), not just for her, but I'm sure for everyone in her Company. Now for my lesson- to get over it. Thank you all soooo much!
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    25 Jul 2009 03:59 PM
    Oh, my. Stationed in Honolulu and she doesn't even have to leave for weeks at a time because her ship gets underway. Just ride around Honolulu, doing boardings and escorting Navy ships in and out of Pearl.

    Hmm....

    I think I'm in the wrong line of work...<!-- Edit -->

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    25 Jul 2009 09:22 PM
    UGH, super jealous she is at Station honolulu! I just reported to the Rush almost a month ago. Yes guys..a month HAS already gone by..crazy huh. I was previously at a small boat station with all the different boats that they have there. If your daughter has any questions, you can tell her to PM and and I'll gladly answer them. It was hard for me to move here, waiting for my car, my household goods still aren't here, things here are different. It might help to chat with someone who has already been through it. How old is she? Anyway, let me know if I can be of ANY help. I will be leaving in a month on patrol...but she can email my work account too if needed.




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    26 Jul 2009 07:06 PM
    Sorry to hear about the reversion lgt. I'm sure everything will work out. It seems you and I are the only W-181 parents here and both our daughters are going to Hawaii. Natalie will be stationed at Maui.
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    26 Jul 2009 07:21 PM
    Im so sorry to hear that, must be a tough situation, but sounds to me like she isnt giving up, shes a tough cookie and a good head on her shoulders :) good luck!


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    28 Jul 2009 02:55 PM
    Wow Levyii, the USCGC Rush looks fabulous!! Thanks for asking about my daughter- she just turned 21 while in boot. I will let her know about your info!
    Nat'sDad, Is she W 181? Mine was X181, now Y. Also, are you aware that you can see her portrait photo- go to capemay.myphotos.cc/ She is going to Maui? That is awesome!
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    28 Jul 2009 11:06 PM
    Yes, she's in X-181. I saw my daughter's photo today. She has a very serious look on her face!
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    29 Jul 2009 12:45 AM
    I saw the Rush and the Jarvis today.  I also got to see the Honolulu Station.  It's pretty small but kinda nice. Pretty centrally located to Waikiki & Honolulu.  It seems like the other side of the world from the North Shore but really is only 35 miles from my house.  Course it still takes an hour to get there!!! I don't know how you guys on a cutter do it!!  can you spell CLAUSTROPHOBIA !!! Yikes!!!


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    23 Jul 2011 08:26 AM
    Our son was reverted for not attaining his sit up requirement a week before graduation. Do you have any words of wisdom for us? He called when we were out and so he told his girl.
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    23 Jul 2011 10:11 AM
    The words of wisdom are pretty simple... just sigh and go to Cape May a week later. I know that sounds silly but that is all you can do. I am sure he will get those sit ups down pat and be able to double the amount by next week. You cannot imagine the motivation a reversion will bring someone. My son, was reverted for not folding socks. Let me tell you, over 2 years later and no one folds a sock as fast, as neat, as precise as he does... STILL! I'm sorry that he was reverted and I know the pain of that... but it will all be ok and he'll be just fine, as will you be just fine.
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    05 Aug 2011 10:36 PM
    New member here..

    My daughter just called us and told us she has been reverted 2 weeks - she WAS at the end of her 6th week!!  She DID fail her "running" part of the Physical Fitness test (the 4th week), but I'm not sure that was the reason, cause she was so nervous AND I was so nervous, I pretty much just hung up the phone , other than just saying "I love you"..

    I figured they would just let her "try" thr run again the 7th week, but maybe she still "isn't up to it" as she had developed (NOT pre-existing) some "shin-splints" a couple weeks ago while she was in..

    Other than "waiting" 6-7 days more for a letter from her, is it appropriate for me to call and "try" to talk to an officer there or something?  I ONLY want to know THE REAL REASON she's been reverted ..maybe it's something else, also?

    Don't get me wrong, I'm ALL for her finishing - and I think SHE wants to, also!  It's just I feel like I "don't know whats going on", thats all..

    Whats your take on this?  Any advice?  I REALLY do want her to finish.. I KNOW she will BE SO PROUD
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    06 Aug 2011 05:48 AM
    Trust me there isn't a thing you can do & I know you aren't asking to DO something, you just want to know. Nope, there is nothing you can do. This is just the way it is. Please know the reason is the reason, the CC"s are rarely wrong in their judgement to revert someone. As a mom I know how hard it is to be sitting on the outside and know right now, at this moment, when you want to be there the most for your child, you are sitting on the outside looking in and you really aren't needed and almost to the point not welcome. You just have to write a letter of full encouragement to her and then just trust in the decisions of the people at Cape May that they are turning her into a lean, mean, fighting machine... oh wait, wrong service, they are turning her into a Coastie.

    Also keep in mind the word reverted gets used a lot when nervous, so she may have said that. But if this is a shin splints/running issue it might not be reverted as much as it is rephased. Rephased is generally done for medical reasons. It still means she will graduate at 10 weeks and not 8 but the conotation is a bit different. I know right now you just want answers but I'm afraid you aren't going to get them. Hang in there mom, I know how hard it is, scream, yell, cry... do whatever you need to do but don't call Cape May. That might not improve her situation at all. If you would like to PM me, I'm always available.
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    06 Aug 2011 09:55 PM
    Thanks SO much for your support AND passing on your knowledge... as far as the "running" goes, I know they give alot of remedial support to those that don't pass the "swimming" tests - but I can't tell "what" they do to help out the running failures... Is there "remedial" running help? Some "Physical therapy" help?  I know theres a Physical Therapy Dept. there, but that doesn't sound  exactly like what the CG would do during Bootcamp, right? ..  She's pretty decent in the water (she did get Scuba-certified), but as a LAND creature  - she needs more help in that!! 

    It IS very difficult to sit here as a mom and have no answers or insight as to what is going on - I just feel "lost" and SO HOPING
    that she'll HANG ON.  She was currently "supposed" to finish Bootcamp the weekend before she returns to Fall semester at her University (she would be in the "Reserves") - but now she will be dropping this "semester" to attempt to graduate bootcamp, since she has extra weeks.  She's got a stubborness to her, though, that I hope will help her "to hang in there"...   Again thanks SO much for your thoughtful and informative answer!!    You've been a big help..
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    06 Aug 2011 10:23 PM
    Oh!! And yes!!  We ALL look forward (and I'm sure she does the MOST) to her becoming a Coastie!!   What a wonderful day that will be
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    12 Aug 2011 10:09 PM
    If they put my daughter on PTE - what does that mean exactly? I don't mean what do the "initials" stand for, I mean remedially, how - lets say it IS a running issue (couldn't pass the running test in time)- what is their TECHNIQUE to improve one's run distance and TIME? There must be a standard technique they utilize to improve a recruits ability to pass this 1.5 mile run... Any ex- CC's out there that actually WORKED with recruits on running help??
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    12 Aug 2011 10:11 PM
    If anyone can address my above ^ questin... thanks so much!!
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    13 Aug 2011 07:45 AM
    A member of our forum, Southern118, was never a CC but he was assigned to TraCen Cape May after he graduated boot camp. He had a lot of connection with the CC's and saw alot of different things while he was stationed there, about 2 years. If he doesn't see this, you can try sending him a PM. I don't know he'll have the answer but he might be able to put your mind at ease a little.
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    14 Aug 2011 09:58 PM
    Thanks Old Guard2 ... I'll try to get in touch with Southern118 !!
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    15 Aug 2011 10:28 AM
    Old Guard2, How do I send a PM to Southern118? I'm not very savvy with this site.. Thanks!
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    15 Aug 2011 01:54 PM
    When a Coastie goes to A-School for Boatswains Mate, it says on the Coast Guard website that they MUST keep up their physical fitness requirements - what exactly do they mean by that, and do they "test" you when you get there??
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    23 Aug 2011 08:45 PM
    They mean they expect you to meet the PT requirements as per the Boat Crew Seamanship Manual. You will be tested.
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    24 Aug 2011 12:16 PM
    I too just got a call last nite, My daughter Kaitlyn was in November company and was reverted or rephased into Oscar she also developed very bad shin splints in both legs and a sprained ankle and the swelling in her knees just wont go down.  I was able to speak with a CC and also the chaplan since she was in the hospital.  The main goal is to get them strong.  If she pushes it too much she will end up with more damage.  My daughter wanted to be with her company so bad that she contemplated telling them she was fine.  I dont know what she decided.  I told her if she is held back she can be a support system for her new company on what to expect. 
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    01 Oct 2014 06:15 PM
    My daughter called yesterday and said she was rephrased she hurt her leg and was in medical but she wants to come home cause they told her she would have to be on the East coast we live in Washington St. she is in week 4 passed her PT the first week with flying colors how do I talk her off the ledge she is young but strong she has always wanted to be a Coastie I tried calling the Chaplin and seeing if someone could talk to her she hasn't even put in her dream sheet so how could they say it was only the East coast? I don't want her to do something she will regret HELP!!
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    01 Oct 2014 08:52 PM
    Who told her that? It sounds like someone is feeding her some dubious info.
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    01 Oct 2014 10:05 PM
    So can I write to her old company will she get it?
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    02 Oct 2014 05:25 AM
    You should send it to her new company, but only east coast billets available? I seriously doubt that.
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    02 Oct 2014 06:13 AM
    Maybe she just has to stay in Cape May until she is fully healed. Not meaning she has to stay there forever. Out of curiosity, what would she have done if she completed boot without the injury and was assigned to Charleston, SC? Would she just say no thank you and leave? I'm sure the injury has her not thinking clearly, that is understandable. But she has to know the possibility of staying on the east coast might have happened. Just keep sending her positive letters, encouraging as can be, making sure she knows this injury is only a temporary set back and all will be good, probably sooner rather than later.
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    21 Apr 2015 08:00 AM
    I'm a mom and my heart is truly breaking, I never thought it could hurt so bad I actually feel constriction in my chest. My son has planned his life for the past two years that he would go into the USCG. He has stayed away from all alcohol, drugs and inappropriate friends etc. We are a military family. My son had asthma as a small boy. He is now clean and had to jump through hoops to prove it. Well, he got into boot camp ready to do whatever it takes to make it. He said that he is fine with the academics and fitness. He has a great attitude and helps others to also keep up a good attitude. He has been ramped a few times and reverted 3 times for 1 week each, mostly for protcol mistakes, yes those details. He said that he wants to go to Alaska so bad that he would stay in boot camp for 6 months if that's what it takes! Yesterday we got a call from him where he said that he was pulled out of his company and put into Regimental Holding Element. He is writing a letter stating his case and will go before a board tomorrow. I know it's not good but I'm just trying to understand what and why this is happening. He is not in the dismissal phase yet. Are there 3 reversions and your out? Could there be something else going on? Please someone, help me to understand. Any ideas what he should put in his letter to help him stay in and graduate?
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    21 Apr 2015 09:10 AM
    Oh Hiller, that's a miserable spot to be in. I believe the rule is 3 reversions and done. But don't quote me and just about any rule can be bent or broken. I don't know what he can put in the letter not knowing what and why he is in RHE. If they are willing to let him write a letter, that's a positive sign. But it sounds like it might be just a formality as well. There isn't much you can do except pray and be ready to pick up the pieces. Hopefully there won't be any to pick up... but, prepare yourself just in case. It sounds like it might be a failure to adapt, it happens to even some of the best boot camp graduates, they get into the fleet and realize holy cow, this isn't what I bargained for. Please let him know we are all pulling for him... and you. Let us know how things go. I'm truly sorry you are hurting so much, my son was reverted twice and I know both times that phone rang and it was Cape May, my heart HURT. I can understand where you are right now. My thoughts and prayers are with you both for continued strength.
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    24 Jun 2016 04:10 PM
    I got a call from my son today saying he got revert back 2 weeks. The call was a very bad connection he tried 3 times but it would keep dropping. I couldn't hear what he was saying because he was talking softly there were people in the background yelling so loud I couldn't hear my son. He was trying to tell me his new company. I know that he got reverted back to July 29th. He was in the color guard. The last letter I got was that he was doing good and that he was actually enjoying himself. What could have happened to revert him back and how do I find out where to send his mail?
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    24 Jun 2016 05:01 PM
    It could be for numerous reasons. It might be he wasn't learning quick enough or not responding fast enough. It could be for something as small as having a messy bed or his uniform could've been dirty.
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    25 Jun 2016 06:11 AM
    He could have fallen asleep in class. Like Lonely says, there are10 more reasons than there are recruits in each company. As to the new company... It's graduation is now July 29th. He is Alfa-193 & James Hall. So you can write and the letters won't be delayed.

    This is a big deal right now. But overall this is simply a bump in the road. He will graduate and be a better Coastie. Don't let that part bigger you. Just be supportive and encouraging without asking too many questions. On July 29th you'll get all the answers.
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    15 Aug 2017 02:19 AM
    Hi, Coasties. First writer, here.
    My son was reverted today for failing to make his push-ups requirement. I know many of you know how I feel. He thought he was prepared going into boot camp but learned that he had been doing the push ups incorrectly. He's been doing incentive training, but obviously hasn't met the requirements yet. My question is...to prepare for the worse, what are his options if he doesn't make the cut if there is a second and third reversion? Thanks, Ruthanne
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    15 Aug 2017 05:56 AM
    He will learn. They will teach him. Once he finishes, and he will, Cape May will be so far behind him, he'll never see it. He can get reverted again, it happens. But it isn't the end of the world. He will just have to try harder. Anyone can do boot camp in 8 weeks. It is the special ones that do it in 9, 10, 12 weeks. They did not send him there and spend money on him, to see him fail. The CC's are the hardest group of people he'll probably ever meet in his CG career. But they are there to support and have them become the best shipmates possible. Remember these CC's could be serving alongside him one day. They want them ready to serve.
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    16 Aug 2017 10:48 PM
    Thanks, Old Guard.  Let's hope you are right!  I will certainly let you know.  In the meantime, thanks for making the wait go a little easier...
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    20 Aug 2017 06:55 PM
    So, he's been reverted a week a second time for push ups.  Though he writes that he won't quit, he's sounding like he's given up and is just waiting for them to tell him to go home.  I'm at a loss as to what to tell him...suggestions would be appreciated!

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    21 Aug 2017 06:05 AM
    Just keep writing, be positive, be supportive, encouraging. They'll keep working with him. There isn't much you can say other than he is strong and will be ok.
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    21 Aug 2017 09:58 PM
    Okay.  I can do that!  Thanks.
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    26 Aug 2017 09:30 AM
    Old Coastie....So, my SR is no longer an SR - failed pushups again and is discharged.  They are holding him for some sort of injury (he called his girlfriend, so information is limited).  He told her that it's not a dishonorable discharge and would come off of his record in 6 months.  His plans are to either go to college or try the Coast Guard again.  So I can advise him, what are the chances he'll be able to get into the Coast Guard again in 6 months?  Thanks for your support.  We all all understandably saddened and disappointed.
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    28 Aug 2017 07:18 PM
    I am so sorry. Maybe there is something else he is meant to do. If not, yes he can apply again in 6 months. It is ok to be disappointed but help him use this setback to come back and be even better, even stronger, with perfect form.
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    20 Feb 2018 05:16 PM
    my son was put into the RHE in the coast guard bootcamp this week, what does that mean for him.
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    21 Feb 2018 07:27 AM
    Shane, ask once in an area or start your own thread once and stand by for answers. Asking in multiple places gets confusing and no one remembers if they answered or not. Anyway... RHE means Regimental Hold Element. Why your son is there, we don't know. What it means, we can't surmise because we don't know. It could mean they are going to process him out of boot camp. You'll have to get answers from your son.
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