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02 Jun 2013 12:55 AM
    Hello,
    I am 24 and considering joining the life saving service so I can help others. I have a degree but since I don't enjoy desk jobs my recruiter advised I go enlisted. Can any enlisted members offer any insight into the life of an enlisted coastie to help a gal out. 

    Thank you kindly,
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    02 Jun 2013 07:30 AM
    Welcome, enjoy your journey.
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    02 Jun 2013 07:36 AM
    It's long stretches of boredom punctuated by moments of chaos and fear. The life of an enlisted non-rate has been thoroughly covered on this forum, do some reading and ask specific questions.
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    02 Jun 2013 10:31 AM
    Is it true the wait for A school can be years?
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    02 Jun 2013 12:44 PM
    Depending on the school yes... What job is sticking out to you specifically?
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    02 Jun 2013 12:55 PM
    Braz, new picture?
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    02 Jun 2013 02:26 PM
    I'm looking at ME, AST, or maybe HS.
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    02 Jun 2013 02:29 PM
    Thank you for the feedback in advance! I really appreciate it
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    02 Jun 2013 07:05 PM
    Why yes! I got a few shiny new anchors and thought I'd show them off lol!
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    02 Jun 2013 07:10 PM
    Jits you're all over the place with those picks. I'd recommend you dig a little more and really get into the meat of what every rate does. You sound like you want to help people but then you throw in ME lol. BM is what I would recommend, you will help people in need, do law enforcement and also really be a core part of what the CG will offer... Ohhh and you won't wait 4 yrs.
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    02 Jun 2013 07:13 PM
    Yes I've been doing so much research it's hard to decide . I hope to your a base soon as well.
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    02 Jun 2013 07:40 PM
    Congratulations CHIEF! That's great news!!!!
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    02 Jun 2013 08:03 PM
    Thanks Old Guard! Still getting use to it, I had the pleasure of getting pinned in house at Recruiting Command, doing it again with the family in the morning.

    Jits base tours are awesome. Talk to the BM's, GM's, and ME's... Your decision on what rate you want will most likely change 10 times between now and when you actually decide!
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    02 Jun 2013 08:25 PM
    Thanks for all of your insight! What kind of jobs will I do while I await A school?
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    02 Jun 2013 09:14 PM
    That question has been thoroughly covered on this forum, read some of the old threads.
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    03 Jun 2013 05:46 AM
    Searching this forum isn't always that friendly... While you wait for A School you can be doing a great multitude of things. Mess cooking, painting, chipping, sanding, painting, fixing engines, standing watches. The list is varied depending upon what type of unit you are stationed at. Large cutter will be different from a small cutter different from a small boat station different from a sector. So while it is hard to give you an accurate answer, count on doing some really great, exciting, fun things... count on doing some really tedious, boring, mind numbing things.
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    03 Jun 2013 10:46 AM
    Thank you for that feedback. I'm new to this forum so I'm still learning how to navigate through it. Thank you for that answer that helped a lot!
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    03 Jun 2013 11:34 AM
    I've been here a while & I still can't find what I'm looking for some days. LOL
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    03 Jun 2013 01:27 PM
    I find it easiest to search the site through google - just type uscg.org and whatever you are looking for in the google search.
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    03 Jun 2013 01:32 PM
    yes, very difficult to find things with the search feature, unless you know who was discussing the topic, but then you must type their username correctly...very difficult. I have had a lot of luck as well with ebee's method. But am am uscg.org committed and will normally stick out the difficulties of the search until I find it...lol :-)
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    10 Jun 2013 04:57 PM
    That is what I am looking at as well lol. If anyone has any insightful feedback feel free to inbox me. I'm still trying to figure this cite out lol.
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    15 Jun 2013 10:55 PM
    I've been a fireman on a 270' for 1.5 years now waiting on AET. Gears said it best, lots of boredom with moments of chaos and fear. You'll be doing a LOT of grunt work as a non-rate on a cutter. It may suck at times but you do get to do some cool jobs eventually, travel around the world, and see what the real part of the Coast Guard is all about. The pay is meager but the job can be rewarding. As an officer you will still get to do some cool jobs like boarding officer for instance but a lot less hands on work, more in-charge roles, a larger paycheck and sitting behind a desk more often. If you're brave enough i'd say go enlisted, it is a humbling experience and you'll see what the Coast Guard is like from the bottom. You can always try for OCS at some point down the road while enlisted. And expect to recieve orders to any A-School after at least 1 year unless you are going FS, which I highly do not recommend unless you love cooking and are good at it.

    Any more questions feel free to ask.
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    16 Jun 2013 01:34 AM
    I have been wresting with whether to go enlisted or ocs. I worry I will spend 1 to 3 years just doing meaningless "grunt work" as I've been told before I ever get to be hands on in search and rescue or go to an A school. I want to join the coast guard to save lives, but I worry it would be years before I would get the chance to. Any thoughts?
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    16 Jun 2013 01:16 PM
    Why would it be years? I was on an icebreaker and even though we didn't to SAR I didn't feel like I was missing out. We were still apart of a big picture.

    Grunt work is fun actually, I would rather do real work than sit around, which is something I am trying to get used to at this new unit. (not that we sit around, cutter life is just a little bit more rigid than station life, or what I have experienced so far)

    Officers, and especially JOs are basically working for higher ranking officers, so they are doing their own kind of grunt work.

    Since I have been at the station I have experienced more SAR cases in 2 weeks than I did in 3 years at my last unit. If you go to a smaller station you WILL get hands on. If you go on a cutter and you bust your A** and get boat crew qualified and show your command what you can and want to do they'll let you do it.

    Put in for OCS but know that I think the last quote was that only 1% of applicants have been getting accepted.
    Take what you like and leave the rest behind.
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    16 Jun 2013 01:33 PM
    4 active duty and 3 civilians. Plan on enlisting...

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    B. Coast Guard Recruiting Manual, COMDTINST M1100 (Series)
    C. Coast Guard Weight and Body Fat Standards Program Manual,
    COMDTINST M1020.8(Series)
    D. Coast Guard Medical Manual, COMDTINST M6000.1(Series)
    E. Coast Guard Recruiting Command (CGRC) Standard Operating Procedure
    (SOP)
    1. Commander, CG Personnel Service Center, has approved the report of
    the Officer Candidate School (OCS) Reserve Commission Selection Panel
    06-13 that convened IAW reference (a) on 13 May 2013. The panel
    recommended the following named individuals as primary and alternate
    candidates to receive appointments to Officer Candidate School, class
    convening (CLCVN) dates 8 August 2013, and 9 January 2014. Primary
    selectees are listed in alphabetical order.
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    The alternate list remains effective until the Commander, Personnel
    Service Center, approves the results of the next OCS Reserve
    Commission Selection Panel. Alternates are encouraged to reapply to
    maximize their commissioning opportunities.
    A. Primary selectees for OCS CLCVN 8 August 2013:
    NAME RATE UNIT
    Adams, Antoine A. SN TISCOM-HGD
    Fox, Andrew L. ME3 CG MFPU KINGS BAY
    Higby, Laura H. SN TISCOM-HGD
    McCombs, Charron L. OS2 CGC BERTHOLF
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    DeSalles, Paul A.
    Lippert, Victoria B.
    Schwalbenberg, Andrew P.
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    5. Haas, Robert T. SN CGC KICKAPOO
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    7. Andrew, Shannon L. SN CGC POLAR STAR
    8. DeCastra, John D. SN CGC GALLATIN
    9. Caraway, Katy C.
    10. Ben Jacob, Orly AET3 SEC COL RIVER
    11. Pratt, Rodney C.
    12. Dillon, Kathleen E. SN D1
    13. Rivera, Marvi M. YN2 BASE ALAMEDA
    14. Phillips, Ross W. SN TRACEN PETALUMA
    15. Strasser, Hillary W.
    16. Cole, Oliver O.
    17. Bolton, Matthew J.
    18. Dunbar, James R.
    19. Urrutia, Jacob D. FN CGC VALIANT
    20. Stoddard Castro, Christian SN TRACEN CAPE MAY
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    CDR B. L. Smith COMMANDANT (CG-131)
    LCDR T. W. Wallin CG AIRSTA WASHINGTON
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    LT S. A. Richardson COMMANDANT (CG-1B3)
    LT B. C. Dixon SEC HAM RD
    LT J. C. Avila LANTAREA (3 DET NCC)
    LT A. S. Weiss COMMANDANT (CG-12A)
    LT S. J. Albert DD BOD-TAB WASHINGTON DC
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    are required to reapply through their ESO if interested in being
    considered for any future selection panel.
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    and criteria for selection, cannot be disclosed to any person who was
    not a member of the panel. However, the Panel precept is available at
    https://cglink.uscg.mil/81a70b5b. Panel members do have valuable
    information that may be shared regarding the general selection
    process. Questions may be addressed to LT Manuel G. Maddox, CGRC
    Mission Support Branch, at 703-235-1764, or via email at
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    16 Jun 2013 04:53 PM
    bahaha that makes me definately not even want to apply again. not funny though
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    16 Jun 2013 05:16 PM
    Posted By Jiujitsufan on 16 Jun 2013 02:34 AM
    I worry I will spend 1 to 3 years just doing meaningless "grunt work"

    "grunt work" has to be done regardless and someone has to do it, someone has to clean the toilets, maintain the cutters, scrap old paint and rust in order to repaint so that the cutter stays afloat in 40 foot sees, someone has to clean dishes, someone has to clean and grease the engines so that they do not seize up in the middle of nowhere leaving you stranded and afloat...and all of the other grunt work tasks that have to get done to keep things squared away...who should be responsible for doing these task if not the new recruit? Everyone enlisted person above you has done those tasks...it is a part of earning respect and your right of passage into the group. They had to do it just like you should have to do it and they will be looking to see how you do it, to see if you are worthy to work with and risk their lives for. Will you complain and do a poor job at these grunt duties or will you be humble, be willing to laugh at yourself and do the best job you can while doing them and earning your right of passage into the team and family environment...remember, you are walking into their home away from home, their group...you have to figure out how to fit in and earn their trust and respect, they do not and should not have to adjust for you. If you are not wanting to do grunt work or are unwilling to do your best at the grunt work then you will have a difficult time earning your right to fit in. I wish you the best.
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    16 Jun 2013 05:35 PM
    Bells don't ever not apply! The year you don't will be the year you would have gotten it! My post isn't meant to discourage but rather to have people have a plan B. I usually enlist my OCS applicants, if they get selected they'll pull them out of bootcamp.
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    16 Jun 2013 10:04 PM
    I felt bad one of the seaman where I just came from put in for it, I was rooting for her. We'll see I want to be a CC first after this
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    17 Jun 2013 04:47 AM
    I'm at a small boat station that's pretty centered around SAR, and guess who has the most hands on aspect of it...non-rates.  It's very rarely the engineer and never the coxswain pulling people out of the water. It's the non-rates, who are also the ones expected to do first aid.  Don't think you won't get involved or miss out being a non-rate.  Every time any of our boats move there is at least one non-rate attached to it.  At my station, and at most others I'm assuming, your supervisors WANT you to be as involved as possible.
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    17 Jun 2013 07:00 AM
    We'll see I want to be a CC first after this


    If you get selected I'm gonna have to make a trip to Cape May.

    your supervisors WANT you to be as involved as possible.


    Absolutely. I need my 3rds and non-rates to know my job so they can fill in when I'm gone or otherwise engaged.
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    17 Jun 2013 06:59 PM
    Posted By Jiujitsufan on 16 Jun 2013 02:34 AM
    I have been wresting with whether to go enlisted or ocs. I worry I will spend 1 to 3 years just doing meaningless "grunt work" as I've been told before I ever get to be hands on in search and rescue or go to an A school. I want to join the coast guard to save lives, but I worry it would be years before I would get the chance to. Any thoughts?
    Jiujitsufan,

    I am not in the Coast Guard and do not have experience as a non-rate, but I do have a few thoughts on the "meaningless work".  I am currently the "probie" at my firehouse, low man on the totem pole... meaning all of the grunt work? guess who gets to do it :-/. Anyway, as my Training Officer told me, as he inspected my cleaning job and had me redo it, the grunt work serves a purpose, if you are unable to have a strong attention to detail and get the job done right the first time, how are your officers and squad leaders going to trust that you will follow orders on the fire scene? I would assume that the "grunt" work given to non-rates is similar to the work that I am given as a probie, the work has to be done by somebody and it is a way to gain the trust of your leadership, the more you gain their trust... the more "cool" work you will be able to do

    as far as SAR experience, I suggest that you join a local volunteer fire company. The process for getting into the CG is long and a lot of "hurry up and wait" so why not get EMS, possibly Fire, and some Rescue experience while you wait to go to boot? in the year and a half that I have been in the fire service I have been on multiple EMS and Fire calls.. as an operational crew member... and the experience has further cemented that I want to work in the lifesaving service. 

    Just my $0.02

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