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10 Jan 2010 12:04 AM
    INFORMATION SYSTEM TECHNICIAN (IT)


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    ITs are responsible for establishing and maintaining Coast Guard computer systems, analog and digital voice systems (telephones and voice-mail), and installing and maintaining the physical network infrastructure that ties the systems together. ITs at sea support tactical command, control, communications, and computer systems.

    Types of Duty:

    ITs are stationed throughout the Coast Guard, including Alaska and Hawaii. ITs work out of large and small shops, Communications Area Master Stations, and on all major cutters. The large shops are called Electronics Systems Support Units (ESUs) and smaller shops are known as Electronic Systems Support Detachments (ESDs). From these units, ITs are dispatched to Coast Guard shore units, SAR Stations, and cutters to maintain, repair, or install their computer and telephone equipment.

    Training Available:

    Being an Information Systems Technician requires a vast knowledge of electrical theory along with practical hands-on skills needed to manage, repair, maintain, and install telephone systems, and network cabling and computer systems. IT 'A' School is one of the longest in the Coast Guard at 25 weeks. Located in Petaluma, CA (just 1 hour north of San Francisco), personnel will learn how to install the Coast Guard's standard computer system image on server and client workstations, how to maintain Microsoft Exchange servers, how to install telephone and network copper and fiber-optic cable, and will learn how to perform moves, adds, and changes on private branch exchange and electronic key telephone systems. Coast Guard 'C' Schools are available to mid-career ITs who are responsible for maintaining telephone services such as voice mail, auto attendant, voice-mail upgrades, and telephone class of service modifications. At mid-career, high-performing ITs may compete for selection to the Advanced Computer, Engineering, and Technology education program, which provides two years, full-time, paid-for college for the member to obtain an Associate's or Bachelor's degree in Engineering or Technology.

    Qualifications:

    To be an IT, you should have an interest in telephone and computer systems, an aptitude for detailed work, and be above average at solving mathematical problems. You must have normal color vision. Practical experience or prior training in telephone, or computer systems maintenance and repair is helpful, but not required.

    Related Civilian Jobs:

    Telephone Technician
    Network Technician
    Computer Systems Technician
    Voice and Data Technician
    Telecommunications Technician
    Central Office Technician


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    08 Dec 2010 06:13 AM
    Any idea what the wait time is on this A school? Or where I could find any of them for that matter?
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    08 Dec 2010 10:56 AM
    Hi Eoghan,

    The wait list is published online on the 15th of every month.

    Link to A School Wait List

    IT is listed as having a greater that 24 month wait.
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    08 Dec 2010 11:08 AM
    Wow... that's a pretty decent amount of rates at 24 months. I'm thinking OCS is a sooner possibility than just about any A school at this point. Of course, both require getting accepted... so we'll see how that goes.
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    10 Dec 2010 09:47 PM
    the list used to be less than 6, with 14 or 15 per class, every three months. Thats the normal schedule for IT A school. These days its 6 per class every 7-10 months. Ive been on the list for 1 year, looks like i got another 5-10 months. If you are looking at IT, might as well sign up for 6, I'll have 3 years in after A school, well I have to give 3 years after A school=6 years total time in for my 4 year contract.
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    11 Dec 2010 06:43 AM
    i still say only sign for 4 and do an extension at that point. It wont be much longer E time will start flying closer you get to the top
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    13 Dec 2010 02:40 PM
    I know, Im waiting to see what the list looks like this month, there's the class in march, after that class I'm up so I am eager. Direct access shows 7 open IT3 billets so idk if that factors anything into it.
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    13 Dec 2010 03:03 PM
    no dont worry about what DA says as your billet choices arent from there and also that could be what is left on the shopping list for thirds that might be transfering this year
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    13 Dec 2010 04:08 PM
    true true. I just wish the rating force notes would be updated to reflect the upcoming classes. I don't know if TQC or the A school list or older rating force notes will give me the best guestimate. Im hoping for may-june, prepared for aug-dec hoping its not longer than that. Im more excited to see where the CG is going to take me after A school, hoping west coast, not sure if I want to try and get a land unit to let my stomach rest or just hop back on underway. Not sure if ill be pulling 20 in the CG.
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    14 Dec 2010 10:14 AM
    i would say try a sea unit if possible just to help with advancement i have a buddy in that is a second right now that made 2nd from boot to there in 2 1/2 years as an IT but he will be stuck there for a bit as having no award points to help him and being stuck at a land unit
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    14 Dec 2010 02:36 PM
    I'm somewhat care about location(west coast/cali would be nice, just not central california where I am from), Oregon, or washington. I have no clue what the pace of advancement for ITs are. It somewhat comes down to the picks, how I feel about the CG in 1 1/2-2 years etc. Keeping an open mind though.
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    10 Mar 2011 03:57 PM
    My husband is going to IT A school at the end of May. It's sort of a shock since we weren't expecting him to leave for at least another year and a half. Needless to say, we're excited, but we have a lot of questions. I'm just wondering how, or if, our son (4 mos.) and myself are going to move there with him. If so, are they going to move our things for us? Also, would we be living in leased housing or off base receiving BAH?
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    10 Mar 2011 06:06 PM
    Yes you both will move here with him. They will move your things for you or they will pay you to move it yourself. They have temporary housing here but it's in pretty crappy condition. Everyone lives off base, usually santa rosa or not petaluma.
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    12 Mar 2011 12:19 PM
    Ok, thank you. Definitely puts my mind at ease a little. It just came up on us so fast.
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    12 Mar 2011 03:12 PM
    most IT have been getting orders within 1-2 weeks of the school and they make it happen. There shouldn't be a problem. There is a lot of support here to help people move.
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    18 May 2011 10:06 AM
    E,
    Are you in school yet? I'm contemplating between IT, ET, or SK. All of those rates I find interesting. I'm also interested in seeing which of those have good job oppurtunities outside of the CG, as I plan to get out after 4 years. How much of IT is computer/network related? Most of the CG info I've read makes it sound like it's mostly communication/telecomm with some computer/it stuff.

    Thanks for your input
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    19 May 2011 06:24 PM
    most of the training is telephony related. You start off in core electronics understanding current flow, alternating current, direct current. You do premise which is learning standards for laying cable, learning to actually terminate 25 pair and hook up phones and get dial tone. You'll do fiber which is fiber laying, terminating and what not, than the 2 phone switches eon and nortel how to run and troubleshoot a phone system. The last telephone class is special circuits which is just doing special things with dial tone. The only computer class is sysadmin. All of the telephone stuff is usually installed and you'll be doing move add or changes to a telephone system which is network admin, security, programming etc. I see almost all of the telephony in our job as network admin, since the phone switches talk, we tie the units together and soforth. The Navy has 6 different ratings to encompass what the IT rating does. Opportunities outside the CG will be plentiful, not only will you know computer system, system administration but you're opening a field in telecommunications. You can get the CG to pay for A+ and a ton of other certifications. If you really want to hook yourself up with a career that will pay good IT is where it is at. Look at jobs outside the CG it's really really competitive and having the telephony skills is just a big bonus. I wasn't a big fan of the telephony and had no clue the rate included so much telephony but overall you'll end up doing a lot of sysadmin with just telephone admin.
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    20 Jul 2011 12:19 PM
    Word of the wise, if you’re looking into the IT rate and your highly interested, don't let the list length/time hold you back. "Choose your rate choose your fate" is the truest saying I've heard since I've been in. I’m an IT2 and love it, I thank my lucky stars I didn’t go any other rate! Even though some of those rates move members up the chain FAST, I wouldn't trade my job for a faster moving pay. It’s hard to find that job that you love day in and day out! So when you do find it go for it even if it means waiting a year. Believe me I know "but I don’t like it here" or "I just want to get to A-school/PO" we have all been there. Long story short save yourself a career change and go for what you want! After all is said and done you will thank yourself!!!


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    20 Mar 2012 05:03 PM
    Hey E, I was wondering if you got into the school yet as I am waiting on the list right now, I was wondering if you kew anything about the billet restructure you mentioned in another thread and how this might affect the whole rate.
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    20 Mar 2012 05:05 PM
    I've been out of IT A school for a while. I posted the rebillet answer on the other thread too. Feel free to ask any questions, im the only IT on the board.
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    09 Jun 2012 10:57 AM
    about how much "engineering" is in this rating? I know that it's part of the engineering group of rates but this strikes me as more of an admin/technical rate. I'm leaning heavily in this direction and am a SN on a river tender right now. The only engineer rates ony my boat are MK and DC. Would it behoove me much to switch to FN if I went IT? I HATE painting and am really ready to get out of the deck department if I can :-P
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    09 Jun 2012 01:16 PM
    Hey, I'm an IT. ITs are technical and not really engineering. On Cutters ITs either stand a watch with the OSs, Engineering watch, or no watch at all.

    It wouldn't matter if you were an FN or SN. As an IT I don't paint or clean bilges.
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    09 Jun 2012 08:22 PM
    Posted By E on 09 Jun 2012 02:16 PM
    Hey, I'm an IT. ITs are technical and not really engineering. On Cutters ITs either stand a watch with the OSs, Engineering watch, or no watch at all.

    It wouldn't matter if you were an FN or SN. As an IT I don't paint or clean bilges.

    heh, don't tempt me with not cleaning bilges or painting! I guess you have to pay your dues some time...
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    09 Jun 2012 09:34 PM
    when you get to A school just remember what being a non rate feels like and what you'll go back to if you get kicked out...you'll make smarter choices.

    I also sent you a message.
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    01 Jul 2012 09:19 AM
    So what's a normal day like as a IT? Does it depend if your on shore or on a cutter? Just trying to figure out what all the different jobs are like.
    Thanks,
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    01 Jul 2012 10:35 AM
    Yeah it matters if you are at Land and then what type of land unit you're at. On Cutters you can be an independent duty IT by yourself or have some small support. You take care of the server on the cutter and all the users. You won't be running new cabling in the ship since the computers/phones never move. ESUs (Electronic Systems Support unit) take care of a lot of administration stuff and actually I don't know too much about them even though I was just at one a week ago. ESDs (Electronic Support Detachments) are the working ITs. A normal day as an IT is a pretty broad range some days you're just working tickets taking care of a broken power supply or installing something for a user. Some days you'll be running cable or fiber, doing a phone move, troubleshooting runs, programming switches, deploying a new server, etc. My ESD supports several units over 3 states and a couple cutters so we do some driving to get to them. Usually I am on the road 2-3 times a week going to units. The last week I was at work I troubleshot a station's pier phone and the cable run out to the pier, troubleshot a phone run at another station and replaced a handset that was bad, reprogrammed 2 Cisco switches, finished working on the COOP kit(in case of a hurricane we relocate the base to a secure building) making sure we had inventories, the server password was set right, the laptops were all ready to deploy, I went and practiced Cooping working on getting our network to work with another government agency's network. After that I troubleshot a cutters phone system because they couldn't get their alarms and whistle to work and it was just a loose cable. Sometimes doing things like 100 user transfers can get boring but each job does have it's ups and downs.
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    01 Jul 2012 01:02 PM
    Thank you for the information. I appreciate it.
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    29 Sep 2012 02:06 PM
    Does anyone know how long the wait is for IT "A" scbool is right now?
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    29 Sep 2012 04:09 PM
    Posted By E on 29 Sep 2012 04:50 PM
    more than 24 months.
    http://www.uscg.mil/epm/docs/a-schoollist.pdf

    Geez.  Thats a really long time.  It doesnt seem like theres even that many people on the list compared to the others.  Are all "A" schools a long wait like that in terms of wait time?
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    29 Sep 2012 04:16 PM
    Yes. With the exception of Food Service Specialist, most wait times will be between 1 and 3 years.
    You can meet the standard, or you can set the standard. It's your choice.
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    29 Sep 2012 04:54 PM
    The link that Cooch posted shows the approximate wait times for each school.
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    20 Jan 2014 08:17 AM
    Man I cannot wait to go to IT-A School im currently on a 270 ft in Key West and lemme tell you, being a non rate on a 270 for close to 2 1/2 years can certainly take its toll on you. Been on the list for close to 2 years now.
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    20 Jan 2014 09:31 AM
    jdiggy, my son was on the Seneca from April 2009 until March 2012 waiting for A School. So yeah, it sucks. But he learned a lot and said he loved his time as a non-rate and glad he got to do all he did. You'll get there soon... Best of luck.
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    20 Jan 2014 10:46 AM
    I was a non rate on a 270 in VA. It does take it's toll on you. The lists should be opening up pretty soon.
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    22 Jan 2014 05:40 PM
    Let me says as a Non-Rate about to go to A-School, it is difficult waiting for a job while knowing you can not advance until your name comes up on the list. I felt the same way when I spent months waiting on one list. Then I decided to change lists because the list I was on was not going to afford me the opportunity to enter the Rating in a timely manner and felt it may not be advantageous to a Career as a Coast Guardsman to wait for it. I still have been in about a year and a half. I was not on a cutter; but I still worked extremely hard. Now that I am ready to go I am proud of everything I went through, I have felt what it is like to earn respect, and I know even better how to lead. I came in with a Bachelors from a Job that I made considerably more money. I am not posting this to patronize you for having animosity for wait times. I would like to share that in the begging I felt somewhat under appreciated because I know I was ready to contribute. I have a sense of ownership for my Coast Guard career now though and I feel like I earned my place as part of the team. The day I left my unit, my last day there, I could not express the gratitude and honor I had to be a part of that unit.

    I believe this is what sets us apart from the other services. We earn every stripe, every ribbon, every accomplishment comes with experience. I would not have it any other way.
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    25 Jan 2014 01:21 AM
    Oh I definitely appreciate the experience. Early on all I was doing was partying and doing the least amount of work on the boat, the typical "shitbag", and I used to get a whole bunch of the older SN's pissed off at my lack of work ethic. Now 2 years later, I'm a Lead SN and im being told that people would have never guessed that this is who I would of became to yrs later.

    Being on the cutter has taught me alot, because while most people consider 270's to be specifically for training the JO's, I viewed it as somewhat of a humbling experience. I grew with my crew and I learned to work not just for myself, but for my friends. Once that started happening my attitude changed.

    However it's time for me to move on.
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    11 Mar 2014 02:44 PM
    FYI. At this time, IT A-School class sizes are about 6...
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    21 Apr 2014 06:24 AM
    do you think they will take more next fiscal year?
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    11 May 2014 06:18 PM
    yes. look at the list, it shows the projected class convening dates and class sizes for the next 3 classes.
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    15 Nov 2014 03:42 PM
    Can anyone tell me the opportunities that are available for a fully qualified, hard working IT?

    For instance, I'm currently an ME3 (interested in going to IT A School), and I know that the more quals I have (BTM, BO, etc) the more opportunities there are for me to deploy or do certain jobs at different units. What are the career paths as an IT in the Coast Guard? I've read about "C" schools available to mid-career ITs but where does that get you as an IT? Do they get to deploy?

    I'm also a reservist. I have already deployed overseas to Kuwait (which is why I'm wondering if ITs ever deploy), and I'm very interested in the rate as it would be more inline with what I do as a civilian.

    I'd really appreciate anyone's answer who is already an IT or was once an IT and can give me some pointers as far as career paths ITs have.
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    19 Nov 2014 08:50 PM
    There are not very many reserve opportunities for IT's and your LE quals won't matter much in our world. I have one reservist working for me and she drills during the week, we couldn't accommodate weekends in our shop. She works telephone and computer tickets just like the other techs.
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    14 Mar 2018 08:33 AM
    Does any one know how often classes for IT are taken? (Once every month or two months, etc?)
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    14 Mar 2018 09:20 AM
    This is what the TraCen Petaluma website says (http://www.forcecom.uscg.mil/Our-Or...ining/IT/)
     

    • Class size: 16 students
    • "A" School duration: 147 training days
    • "A" School convenings per year: 7
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    14 Mar 2018 09:29 AM
    Thank you! I must have missed the convening part when looking on the site myself.
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    17 Apr 2019 01:14 PM
    I just ran across this by accident. Sorry and don't mean any disrespect but the last item, Center Office Tech, I had to chuckle. When I retired in 99, I landed a job with Sprint working at a central office in Detroit for the Wire-line (Long Distance Division). From the bit I understand about the TT rating much less the IT rating, a TT/IT if they use the same curriculum is more in line as a outside plant tech. I had to go to a nortel school for 2 sessions to become DMS100/250 certified and a couple years of OJT. I spent 10 years as a CO switch tech and it was a constant learning experience. I.e., never got boring. Being a switch tech is pretty deep and the closest TT/IT's could get in similar work might be running 2.5 twisted pair between the MDF's for T1 cross connects. I never knew the CG to use Tellabs equip, much less Nortel and a HOST of other flavors. Never seen a DACS 1/0 or 3/1 on a ship or land unit, no million dollar Cisco fiber racks or frame relay networks, etc.. How may TT/IT's work with large battery (UPS) plants. Not those little APC boxes we plug our PC's into, but banks of batteries that would fill a semi truck? Do they teach fiber splicing (I would think so but just wondering). Lots of preventive maintenance  thats about as exciting as cleaning the head on a ship after a patrol. So for what it's worth, as a TC, I was as versed in being a switch tech as today's CG IT types would be writing in Python. Just a heads up about expectations. 

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