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CG Behind in Arctic Operations
Last Post 29 Apr 2012 09:27 PM by Bells. 9 Replies.
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    29 Apr 2012 05:22 PM
    This article is mostly bull.

    "As ocean spray and bad weather freezes onto the superstructure of a ship in the harsh Arctic climate, it can become top-heavy, causing serious stability concerns, said Dana Goward, director of marine transportation systems management for the Coast Guard.

    “One of the ways you keep the ice off or get it off is you have the crew go out with baseball bats and pound the ice off and have it fall off the ship. And that can be a serious threat to the safety of the vessel,” Goward said."

    First, its mostly one or the other, and only in the winter. either its so cold that we are in ice and none of it is coming up the cutter (green water), or you are in warmer seas and its not going to freeze onto the ship. The only time we had ice on the cutter was in seas right before Nome, in december, and it only got on the bow. We would go out with baseball bats mostly because we were bored and took out 8 month frusterations. It did not get up onto the superstructure pass the O1 deck. Our stability would have been a factor only when our shaft seals busted and we couldnt use main drainage to dump it.

    "For example, aircraft can’t fly at altitudes where the temperature reaches minus 40 degrees, which can happen even in summer months. Flying in those temperatures can turn jet fuel into a gel, which obstructs the fuel flow through the tubes to the engine."

    Again, in the summer for arctic shield, its gunna be 40, not negative 40. We set a record for the coldest a helo flew, and again that was IN THE WINTER near Nome.

    "Ships must also remember to bring a window defogger such as Rain-X with them, Goward said — they’ll need it, and there’s no convenience store with Rain-X above the Bering Strait. Because everything is so far apart, deployed troops must bring everything they need with them. " Duh. You also need to remember you fuel.

    "If you’re in Barrow [Alaska] and two people pull out iPhones at the same time, service goes down,” Goward said." um no. Thats never happened and we have had 80 people just off the shore of Barrow on there cell phones using data.

    Wow. dumb.
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    29 Apr 2012 05:26 PM
    There are spelling errors sorry on my phone again on duty
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    29 Apr 2012 05:28 PM
    Lol gosh
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    29 Apr 2012 07:26 PM
    The ice breakers on the Great Lakes get a ton of ice buildup. They use the baseball bat method pretty much all the time, so that part of the article is accurate.
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    29 Apr 2012 07:27 PM
    Ice forming on the superstructure was defiantly an issue on the great lakes. Never seen anyone use a baseball bat to break ice, we had plastic headed mauls that we used. Would think with how many mauls we broke handles on a bat would be a poor choice. But then sea ice is different from fresh water ice.
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    29 Apr 2012 07:29 PM
    The good thing about the wooden bats is that they're fairly inexpensive compared to the mauls.
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    29 Apr 2012 07:31 PM
    Nargil, can you chime in on te DEPOT thread and give me some YN insight? Here's the link:

    http://www.uscg.org/Forum/aft/13104.aspx#108261

    Thanks.
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    29 Apr 2012 07:48 PM
    Done Cooch.
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    29 Apr 2012 09:27 PM
    I stand corrected on that, didn't even think of the fresh water
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