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Army Cav Scout to CG
Last Post 09 Jul 2012 01:58 PM by Gears. 11 Replies.
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18 Jun 2012 05:26 PM
    Hello all, I'm a Cav Scout now, E4, I have a little over a year left, I'll be getting out as an E5 Sergeant and was really looking at the CG for the MSST/MSRT/DOG unit(s). Does my current job (combat arms) and in theater experience help me with getting into one of these units? Also which MOS is most prefered? Thanks everyone !!!!
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    18 Jun 2012 05:39 PM
    If you join, you will come in as an non-rated E-3 and repeat basic training over again. Once you've been at your first duty station for 4 months, you can place your name on the school list of your choice, provided that you qualify for it on your ASVAB (which you will have to take again, along with the MEPS medic exam). If you want a MSST or a similar unit, your best option would be to choose Maritime Enforcement Specialist. The wait for that school is 2 years at the moment. So after 2.5 years in the CG, you should be headed off to ME school and graduate as an E-4. There may or may not be an MSST bullet open while you're going through school. It's impossible to know that ahead of time.
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    18 Jun 2012 06:03 PM
    Posted By Cooch on 18 Jun 2012 06:39 PM
    If you join, you will come in as an non-rated E-3 and repeat basic training over again. Once you've been at your first duty station for 4 months, you can place your name on the school list of your choice, provided that you qualify for it on your ASVAB (which you will have to take again, along with the MEPS medic exam). If you want a MSST or a similar unit, your best option would be to choose Maritime Enforcement Specialist. The wait for that school is 2 years at the moment. So after 2.5 years in the CG, you should be headed off to ME school and graduate as an E-4. There may or may not be an MSST bullet open while you're going through school. It's impossible to know that ahead of time.
    So you're saying I would leave the Army as an NCO, and come into the CG as basically a private???

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    18 Jun 2012 06:17 PM
    Yes. That's how it would work. You would be an E-3 (Seaman or Fireman). There are a lot of prior Army in the CG, and they all took the same path. Unless you were a cook or an operations specialist in the Army, there won't be any way to maintain your current paygrade, and even then, it's not guaranteed.
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    18 Jun 2012 07:11 PM
    Yes, but the good thing with the Coast Guard is that dependent upon the rate picked, some folks make E6 within one enlistment.   With a bit of hard work, you could easily catch up to where you were in your Army career within four years.  We have a guy on our ship that came in and became a cook.  He was an E5 with about two years of service. 

    There is no rate equiv for Cav Scout in the CG.  The units you listed interest in are four year billets, not rating(MOS) specific.  In other words, a cook or machinery tech could go from a ship to one of these units, receive some tactical training, and serve the four years.  After that time, these folks could wind up back on a ship doing their primary jobs. 

    There is an ME rating(Maritime Law Enforcement) in the Coast Guard, but that is apples and oranges when compared with the job of Cav Scout.
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    08 Jul 2012 05:25 PM
    If you try "recruiter shopping", you will find that it leads to a quick disqualification. Feel free to ask around, you will get the exact same answer wherever you ask.

    jni3, I sent you a private message.
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    08 Jul 2012 07:41 PM
    JNI, you are beyond wrong and need to stop offering advice. I don't know if you are a Coastie or not but it seems what you are without a shadow of a doubt is incredibly malinformed. You really need to keep your bright ideas to yourself before you damage someone's career before it has even left the starting gate.
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    08 Jul 2012 08:04 PM
    JNI, you are beyond wrong and need to stop offering advice. I don't know if you are a Coastie or not but it seems what you are without a shadow of a doubt is incredibly malinformed. You really need to keep your bright ideas to yourself before you damage someone's career before it has even left the starting gate.


    and that is why you're entitled to your opinions.

    If you try "recruiter shopping", you will find that it leads to a quick disqualification. Feel free to ask around, you will get the exact same answer wherever you ask.

    jni3, I sent you a private message.


    disqualification... maybe/possibly. but some are more educated/experienced with prior service members then others. i replied to your message.
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    08 Jul 2012 08:11 PM
    I've put in plenty of prior service applicants. My record stands for itself, as well as my experience.

    And believe me, once a recruiter finds out that someone has been recruiter shopping and trying to pull the duck-under/go-behind, we are quick to disqualify them. There are too many quality applicants out there for us to waste our time with someone trying to play us against each other.
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    08 Jul 2012 08:30 PM
    it's not playing against one another as much as getting a recruiter that will give you the time of day. have you ever heard a CG recruiter say, "we aren't taking prior service right now" when there is a chance that they really are? i have.
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    08 Jul 2012 08:40 PM
    Hopefully that recruiter is no longer in the job. That's one of the great things about this site; multiple recruiters (really good ones, I might add) post on here, so many applicants are able to hear it from more than one source and see the correct answers.
    You can meet the standard, or you can set the standard. It's your choice.
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    09 Jul 2012 01:58 PM
    "we aren't taking prior service right now"


    Yes, when we are mission complete for the year, I tell everyone our boot camp dates are full, but if you're eligible we can get you ready to go for next year. Also, recruiter shopping is something I won't tolerate. Once I find out someone has contacted another office I DQ them. We all offer the same deal, we aren't used car salesman.
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