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Medical DQ BS
Last Post 19 Aug 2016 10:05 PM by Ftpiercecracker. 6 Replies.
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06 Aug 2016 09:18 PM
    Pretty sure this is my first post here, hope it's in the right place. 

    This is going to be a bit of a rant just so you are aware.

    Anyway I've been in the enlisentment process almost a year now and I just received a letter from DOD saying I have been medicaly DQ for "Lumbago". If this turns out to be the end of the road for me it's my own fault.

    Back at my very initial interview where you fill out all those pages of medical information I unknowingly put more than I should have.

    I'm an honest person to a fault and here is where being to honest can really bite you in the ass. In the medical report I put that I have occasional back pain.

    It's true I do have occasional discomfort in my lower back, in the joints themselves, but I never have or needed to see a doctor for it, take pain meds for it, or stop working because of it. There is zero medical documentation and from what I know now if there is no paper work they don't care/want/need to know about it. This is what my recruiter told me after I finished filling out the paper work.

    I run a business as a handyman at present and have done physical labor my whole young life without issue. The most I have ever needed to do is bend over and stretch/pop my back from time to time when I've been working all day. 

    This must be the most inconsequential thing to be DQ for. 

    To give a little insight as to who I am.

    24yo white male, single, 
    no debit other than 8k from student loan.

    Electrical Engineering major, no degree, yet. 2.74 gpa overall.
    Robust physical/mental health
    Very good overall physical conditioning
    No allergies or medical conditions of any kind(asthma, ADHD, flat feet, etc) unless slightly less than perfect vision falls into that category

    86 on asvab w/ GT score of 123
    24 on ACT, but that was when I was a sophomore in high school.

    References from veterans of every single branch of the military.

    I'm going to contact my recruiter asap and see what this is all about. Hoping for the best, preparing for the worst.

    Thanks for reading.

    Rant off.


    I know I didn't ask any questions in that wall of text. I'm posting this just to vent my disbelief and to read your thoughts on the situation.


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    07 Aug 2016 07:05 PM
    The recruiter can't coach you on how to fill out the form so don't try to put some blame on them. It sounds like there is more to this. If anything you would explain to the MD at MEPS exactly what you said and you should have been good to go. However; their decision cannot be reversed. If anything your recruiter may be able to submit a waiver request to the USCG MD. You can ask about that. FYI: There are directions on the medical form that you must read and a place where you sign saying you understand everything, etc. I've seen many people DQ themselves because they don't use common sense. Would you go to a doctor and tell them your back hurts but then tell them not to worry because you'll take care of it? No, you wouldn't because you would do exactly what you did; stretch, rest and continue on. Why, because you know you are ok. So why would you tell another doctor you have back pain and then be upset because they deem you unfit? Its not about being dishonest or even being honest; its just common sense. I know this situation sucks and I get it; Ive seen this situation too many times. I'm just trying to give you some perspective, not bark at you. Hopefully you can continue on with a waiver from the USCG. Good luck.
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    07 Aug 2016 08:41 PM
    Thank you for taking the time to reply.

    Why don't recruiters do more to keep potentially good recruits from shooting themselves in the foot right out the gate? I assume it is a matter of illegality?

    I guess I'm a little PO'd because as soon as he read what I had written he said I should not have wrote that.

    And to clear things up, I did tell the MEPS doctor about my back and he said it shouldn't be a problem. Even so they did not allow me to complete MEPS, but instead required me see an outside specialist. Who gave me a clean bill of health.

    As I said before, I will definitely be contacting my recruiter and do everything in my power to hopefully have this corrected.

    Thanks again.
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    08 Aug 2016 12:12 AM
    It's not our job nor can we advise applicants on how to fill out the medical form. However, before filling it out I would tell them to be completely honest and if they were never officially diagnosed with anything not to self diagnose unless absolutely sure. I would answer questions to clarify things, however I wasn't going to be the recruiter that "coached" someone. So I made sure to keep my bases covered, my career. If that meant someone disclosed something that doesn't exist or said yes to something that could be a no and was DQd; that's just how it is. It just takes one person to say "my recruiter told me to put no" to screw them over.
    Anyhow, seems weird. So you went to MEPS, got a consult and passed and got a letter from DOD saying your DQd? I would think you would be good to go. Hopefully your recruiter can clear it up for you.
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    13 Aug 2016 04:57 PM
    Update:

    Recruiting station has my letter of disqualification, they asked me to fax it to them. My recruiter is out on sick leave, so another recruiter has taken it upon himself to get things started, said he had never even heard of Lumbago. He said he will collaborate with my recruiter when he returns, presumably sometime next week, but not to get my hopes up.

    Basically we have to somehow convince the MEPS Dr. that I do not have Lumbago, which I know that I don't, and it was in fact a miss diagnosis. I wish I could represent myself in person and not be seen as just as a stack of papers and numbers. There is nothing I can't do, this 'condition' I have is a none condition. It does not limit me in anyway ,shape, or form. But the MEPS doctor won't get to see that. I don't know how the MEPS Dr. could have come to this conclusion, because both outside doctors reported I was fit for duty.

    The only explanation I can come up with is the MEPS doctor is basing his/her diagnosis solely on my initial medical paperwork. Calling a stiff back after a long day of work 'lumbago' is a gross exaggeration in my opinion.

    But that's just it, my unprofessional opinion. The doc has the final word and it will be what it will be.

    Thank you gentlemen.
    FPC



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    14 Aug 2016 09:53 AM
    The only explanation I can come up with is the MEPS doctor is basing his/her diagnosis solely on my initial medical paperwork.


    Bingo! When I was recruiting I had several people DQ themselves on their medical prescreen. Like Airdale said, you cannot be coached on how to fill it out. We've recommended on here many times, if you weren't formally diagnosed with medical records it's probably a, "No".
    “I’m not in this world to live up to your expectations and you’re not in this world to live up to mine.” ― Bruce Lee
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    19 Aug 2016 10:05 PM
    Final update:

    This is the end. I truly did pen my own demise.So as to make things crystal clear, I have been medically DQ from enlisting in any branch of the armed forces, not just the coast guard.

    After talking with my recruiter I learned it is just as I had suspected. MEPS diagnosis has no basis on actual medical findings, as all my recent medical testing was 100% normal.

    My recruiter also told me this was the only time he had ever known MEPS to send a letter of disqualification directly to a recruit. Which apparently means whatever disqualifying condition you have is extra bad.

    Darn it, if only mom and dad had taught me to be a little less honest sometimes I would be on my way to basic by now.

    It's an unfortunate reality, but its the truth.

    I was sunk before I ever set sail.


    It doesn't matter what the docs at MEPS say, I know in my heart and soul I can perform any task put before me. If they don't believe that after everything I've done then they are blind.


    To all those new recruits who did manage to make it through, know that I congratulate you and will envy you for all time.

    FPC.
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