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CG C130 Collides with Marine Corps Helicopter
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Quick5oh
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| 30 Oct 2009 05:11 AM |
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The FAA believes a Coast Guard C-130 Coast Guard C130 transport plane might have been involved in a Thursday evening midair collision with a Marine Corps AH-1 Cobra helicopter at 7:10 p.m., approximately 25 miles east of San Clemente Island.
"The Coast Guard cannot account for a C130 and the Marine Corps cannot account for a Cobra.
There were seven people on board the C130 that is missing and two on the helicopter that is missing.
A pilot reported seeing a fireball in the vicinity of the suspected crash site.
The pilots were not talking to FAA air traffic controllers at the time of the collision. A search and rescue mission is underway" according to a statement issued by the FAA Thursday night.
Coast Guard and Navy vessels are searching for the helicopter.
At 10:40 p.m. a Coast Guard spokesman said its base in Los Angeles was coordinating the search.
No Survivors have be found.
It was just confirmed by a CG spokesman that these 2 aircraft's did collide. There have still been no survivors found.. My thoughts and prayers go out to all the families.. |
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Quick5oh
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| 30 Oct 2009 05:12 AM |
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Here's an updated story: Mid-Air Collision Off SoCal Coast Updated: Thursday, 29 Oct 2009, 11:01 PM PDT Published : Thursday, 29 Oct 2009, 10:08 PM PDT Posted by: Tony Spearman San Clemente Island (myFOXla.com) - The U.S. Coast Guard says a Coast Guard plane has collided with a military helicopter off the Southern California coast. According to the Coast Guard, the Navy reported the crash at about 7 p.m. Thursday. The helicopter went down about 15 miles east of San Clemente Island, the farthest south of the Channel Islands. Coast Guard Petty Officer Allyson Conroy said several vessels were scouring the area. She didn't immediately say how many people were on the helicopter or release any other details on the crash. Here is a link with some videos: Link<!-- Edit --> Moderator Edit : 10/30/2009 2:53:25 PM GMT |
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Old Guard2
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| 30 Oct 2009 01:00 PM |
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I just found this story... might be a repeat of some info.
God Speed Coasties and Marines. We are all praying for you.
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lollipop
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| 30 Oct 2009 01:25 PM |
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I just read about this story. It's a 30 minute drive up the coast from where I live. My prayers are with the search teams and the families of the missing.
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pepperdoggie
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| 30 Oct 2009 01:39 PM |
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Horrible news. LA Times says the C-130 was conducting a search for a missing boat at the time of the collision. My prayers are with the crews and families.
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noregrets
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| 30 Oct 2009 01:52 PM |
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My thoughts and prayers to thsoe involved, their companies, their families, and the USCG and USMC family. Tragic news - hoping for something positive to come from this.
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pepperdoggie
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| 30 Oct 2009 02:20 PM |
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Here is a more complete story from the Sacramento Bee:
A Sacramento-based Coast Guard plane searching for a rower off the coast of San Clemente collided with a Marine Corps helicopter Thursday night, sparking a massive ocean search for nine missing people, seven of them based at the former McClellan Air Force Base in North Highlands.The search has been ongoing since shortly after the 7 p.m. midair collision, and Coast Guard officials said this morning they were using all available assets in the effort to find the seven guardsmen and the two Marine pilots.
"We're looking for nine survivors at this time," Lt. Randall Black of the Sacramento Coast Guard unit told The Bee at 7:30 a.m. "We have calculated the survival rate to 19 to 20 hours, so we're within that window, and we are treating it as a rescue mission at this time." Black said the C-130 Hercules aircraft, a hulking, four-engine propeller-driven plane that conducts missions as far south as the equator, west to Hawaii and north to Alaska, took off from McClellan at about 3:30 p.m. Thursday as part of a search for a 12-foot vessel that had been missing for two days. Reports out of San Diego indicated it was an effort to find a person in a dinghy who apparently was trying to row to Catalina Island.
Black said the aircraft, which carried the call sign 1705, would have arrived at the site of the search around 4:45 p.m., meaning it had been searching for the lost vessel for more than two hours before the 7:10 p.m. collision.
Authorities said the plane collided with a Marine Corps AH-1 Cobra helicopter that was on a training mission out of Camp Pendleton and was carrying two people. The collision occurred during clear weather about 15 miles east of San Clemente Island, about 50 miles off the San Diego coast. Eyewitnesses reported the crash immediately, and rescue aircraft from the Navy and Coast Guard have located a debris field, although there is no confirmation that it is from the aircraft. The Sacramento Coast Guard unit has about 200 people stationed at McClellan and operate four C-130 search-and-rescue aircraft. The planes, a ubiquitous sight over the Sacramento area as they take off and land after search or law enforcement missions, have a range of 4,000 miles and can fly up to about 300 mph.
Black said he could not recall any crashes of Sacramento-based aircraft in the past.
A C-130 from a Coast Guard unit in Hawaii is expected to land at McClellan a about 9 a.m. today to back up the Sacramento unit, which is trying to keep family members of the missing seven-person crew informed about developments in the search.
"What we're doing at the unit right now, because Coast Guard San Diego is in charge (of the search), our main priority is keeping in touch with the family members, keeping them up to date," Black said. "Obviously, our hearts and prayers go out to the family members."
Navy and Coast Guard ships and helicopters operated through the night in an effort to find survivors and continued this morning in conditions that officials said were ideal.
Coast Guard Petty Officer Alan Haraf in North Highlands said witnesses reported that both aircraft hit the water.
"That is when we lost communication with them," Haraf said.
The C-130 the crew consisted of two pilots, a flight engineer, a dropmaster, observers to assist with searching and a navigator, officials said in Southern California. The aircraft is used to locate missing vessels and can fly low enough to drop life rafts and other survival equipment to assist people in distress while other rescue units are on the way.
A pilot reported seeing a fireball near where the aircraft collided, Federal Aviation Administration spokesman Ian Gregor said, and the Coast Guard informed the FAA that debris from a C-130 had been spotted.
Cpl Michael Stevens, a spokesman for the Miramar Marine Corps Air Station, said the AH-1W Super Cobra helicopter was on a training mission when it went down. The Cobra and its crew are part of Marine Aircraft Group 39, based at Camp Pendleton, and the 3rd Marine Aircraft Wing, which is headquartered at Miramar, Stevens said.
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Rholste3
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| 30 Oct 2009 03:48 PM |
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very tragic, my heart goes out to all involved and I hope that we have success in the rescue mission. |
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Old Guard2
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| 30 Oct 2009 04:26 PM |
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SAN DIEGO (AP) — A Marine attack helicopter that collided with a Coast Guard search plane off Southern California was one of four helicopters flying in formation to deliver Marines to a training island. All nine crew members from the airplane and helicopter remain missing Friday. Marine Corps spokesman Maj. Jay Delarosa says two AH-1W Super Cobra attack helicopters were escorting two heavy lift CH-53E transport helicopters carrying Marines to San Clemente Island Thursday night. A Coast Guard C-130 with a crew of seven was searching for a missing boater when it collided with one of the two-person Super Cobras shortly after 7 p.m. about 15 miles east of San Clemente Island. Delarosa says he does not know how many Marines were aboard the transport helicopters. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - There could be more than 2 Marines missing????? Macie
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Newcoastiewife
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| 30 Oct 2009 04:26 PM |
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Very sad...I really pray they find survivors.
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pepperdoggie
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| 30 Oct 2009 04:34 PM |
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The following is from the Navy Times:
SAN DIEGO — The Coast Guard and Navy were still hoping Friday to find survivors of a collision between a Coast Guard plane carrying seven people and a Marine Corps helicopter carrying two off the Southern California coast.
The crash was reported at 7:10 p.m. local time Thursday, about 50 miles off the San Diego County coast and 15 miles northeast of San Clemente Island, Coast Guard spokeswoman Petty Officer Allyson Conroy said.
A pilot reported seeing a fireball near where the aircraft collided, Federal Aviation Administration spokesman Ian Gregor said, and the Coast Guard informed the FAA that debris from a C-130 had been spotted. The Coast Guard plane that crashed was a C-130 Hercules, from Air Station Sacramento.
The Coast Guard crew members had survival gear onboard their aircraft, including exposure suits that could have allowed them to survive in the water for hours, Public Affairs Specialist 3rd Class Henry Dunphy said Friday from San Diego.
“We’re hoping to find survivors,” he said. “We’re not ruling that out.”
The Coast Guard high endurance cutter Jarvis and patrol crafts Blackfin, Edisto and Petrel still are searching the 14-mile crash area, along with two MH-60J Jayhawk helicopters. The Navy amphibious assault ship Peleliu also is helping with the search. Last night, the Peleliu was joined by the frigate Curts and the oiler Guadalupe, but they both were pulled off to continue other missions, according to the Navy.
“We’ve pretty much thrown everything we have at it right now,” Dunphy said.
Search conditions were clear last night with a bright moon in calm seas. Weather conditions continue to be favorable.
The Coast Guard plane was searching for a missing civilian mariner in the area near Catalina Island, just north of San Clemente Island at the time of the collision, Maj. Jay Delarosa, a 3rd Marine Aircraft Wing spokesman, said Friday. The Super Cobra was part of a four-helicopter training mission that included one other AH-1 helicopter from Camp Pendleton and two CH-53E Super Stallion heavy lift helicopters from Miramar, he said.
“They were flying in a mixed section to conduct training,” he said. “Obviously the Cobras were flying escort for the 53s.”
The Cobra and its crew are part of Marine Aircraft Group 39, based at Camp Pendleton, and the 3rd Marine Aircraft Wing, which is headquartered at Miramar, said Cpl. Michael Stevens, a spokesman for Marine Corps Air Station Miramar.
San Clemente Island is the southernmost of the eight Channel Islands, located 68 nautical miles west of San Diego. The Navy has owned and trained at San Clemente Island since 1934, according to the island’s Web site. Naval Air Station North Island is responsible for the island’s administration.
Earlier this week, it was an AH-1 Cobra attack helicopter that collided with a UH-1 helicopter over southern Afghanistan, killing four American troops and wounding two more, a Marine spokesman said.
Staff writers Gidget Fuentes and Susan Gvozdas contributed to this report.
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| 30 Oct 2009 04:35 PM |
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You can't fit more than two people into an AH-1.<!-- Edit --> Last Edited : 10/30/2009 5:35:56 PM GMT |
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jkribell
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| 30 Oct 2009 04:50 PM |
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Yep-HK is out there helping in the search..... too close to home!!! yikes.
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Old Guard2
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| 30 Oct 2009 06:15 PM |
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The way the story reported it sounded like they weren't sure if there were more Marines on the one helo. Sorry, I know nothing about helos and passenger capacity. I'll be sure to research better next time.
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Old Guard2
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| 30 Oct 2009 06:16 PM |
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Jan, I hope HK is OK. :) Glad she is out there helping as best that she can. Thank her for me. Macie
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sunny717
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| 30 Oct 2009 09:05 PM |
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A tragedy. . . . We pray and hope there are survivors, and all who search a kept safe.
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pepperdoggie
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| 31 Oct 2009 06:06 PM |
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Coast Guard identifies 9 missing in midair crash
By The Associated Press (AP)
The U.S. Coast Guard has identified nine people feared dead at sea following an air collision between a Coast Guard aircraft and a Marine Corps helicopter.
The missing crew members from the Coast Guard C-130 are all stationed in Sacramento, Calif., where their aircraft was based. They are:
_ Lt. Cmdr. Che J. Barnes, 35, Capay, Calif., aircraft commander.
_ Lt. Adam W. Bryant, 28, Crewe, Va., co-pilot.
_ Chief Petty Officer John F. Seidman, 43, Carmichael, Calif., flight engineer.
_ Petty Officer 2nd Class Carl P. Grigonis, 35, Mayfield Heights, Ohio, navigator.
_ Petty Officer 2nd Class Monica L. Beacham, 29, Decaturville, Tenn., radio operator.
_ Petty Officer 2nd Class Jason S. Moletzsky, 26, Norristown, Pa., air crew.
_ Petty Officer 3rd Class Danny R. Kreder II, 22, Elm Mott, Texas, drop master.
The missing crew members from the Marine Corps helicopter are:
_ Maj. Samuel Leigh, 35, Belgrade, Maine.
_ 1st Lt. Thomas Claiborne, 26, Parker, Colo.
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noregrets
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| 31 Oct 2009 09:24 PM |
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That's heartbreaking. Thanks for posting that .... keeping them all in my prayers.
I have yet to get my daily dose of news. Do they know what seemed to have happened yet?
Sara
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pepperdoggie
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| 01 Nov 2009 06:28 PM |
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SAN DIEGO
Coast Guard officials said Sunday they have called off the search for potential survivors of a midair collision Thursday between two military aircraft off the coast of San Diego.
Seven crew members were aboard a Sacramento-based Coast Guard HC-130 and two pilots aboard a Camp Pendleton-based AH-1W Super Cobra helicopter when they collided in a fireball about 15 miles east of San Clemente Island. All are now presumed dead.
"Due to the wreckage we've found, the nature of the collision, and the length of time since the crash, we've reached the conclusion that survival is no longer viable," said Rear Adm. Joseph Castillo, commander of the 11th Coast Guard District, which includes San Diego.
The search of a 644-square-mile area between San Diego and San Clemente Island ended at 9:45 a.m. Sunday after 63 1/2 hours. Families of the missing service members were notified the night before.
Now Navy salvage ships will concentrate on locating the bulk of the wreckage and recovering the bodies of the missing crew members, said Capt. Thomas Farris, commander of Coast Guard Sector San Diego. He said he expects the search to continue for at least a week.
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Newcoastiewife
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| 01 Nov 2009 08:30 PM |
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 My heart felt prayers go out to the families (both CG and actual family members) of those involved. My hope is that they went quickly and didn't suffer.
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maxsmom
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| 01 Nov 2009 09:37 PM |
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This summer, before my son left for bootcamp, we were lucky enough to be able to go on a tour of a C-130 at McClellen AFB in Sacramento. The plane we toured was 1750, the plane involved in the collision. Our tour was given to us by the co-pilot of the C-130 aircraft that was involved in the collision off San Diego, Adam Bryant. I feel lucky to have met him, he seemed like a very nice person, very happy to be a pilot for the Coast Guard, and answered any questions we had. This hits pretty close to home for me, that's for sure. I offer my sincere condolences to his family, as well as to all the other families who had loved ones on both aircrafts involved. |
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DahcT421
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| 02 Nov 2009 04:37 AM |
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http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/11/01/ca...index.htmlR.I.P..Lt. Cmdr. Che J. Barnes, Lt. Adam W. Bryant, Chief Petty Officer John F. Seidman, Petty Officer 2nd Class Carl P. Grigonis, Petty Officer 2nd Class Monica L. Beacham, Petty Officer 2nd Class Jason S. Moletzsky, Petty Officer 3rd Class Danny R. Kreder II. Thoughts and prayers out to the families as well as the two marines and their families. “The Blue Book says we've got to go out and it doesn't say a damn thing about having to come back.” |
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