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A dual military question
Last Post 16 Dec 2009 02:10 PM by wepprop. 16 Replies.
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08 Dec 2009 01:39 PM
    Ok so I leave February 9th for basic. My husband is prior Navy and transferring to the CG but they would not accept him at his current rank because what he did in the Navy needed more quals in the CG. He's fine with that (a change of pace) even though he leaves for boot camp May 4. She put him leaving a month after I got home so we could move to the new location and get situated and blah.

    I want to do HST and he is considering the new maritime law enforcement rate. The A School for HST is backed up for 16 mos and the one he wants starts in Jan but will probably be at least 6 mos before he can go. So after all that rambling my question is...

    Will they station us near each other undesignated or are we just sitting ducks until we get rated?

    We have heard both..
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    08 Dec 2009 01:56 PM
    ok you are talking about HS and not HST. The new ME rate is locked up.

    they will try to station yall close together but it is needs of the service. the only catch is once he goes to A school or you go they might make yall wait until the other one finishes school before they relocate the other person.
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    08 Dec 2009 02:51 PM
    I think that's great your husband will be joining the CG along with you. What made him decide to make the switch? If it wasn't for loss of rank, my husband wouldn't have minded the switch, but for sure, he's going to be pursuing school while I support him. He did the same for me while I was going to school, so it's his turn now and I totally don't mind that while he pursues the reason why he joined the military...for educational funding. lol. However, he did try joining the CG before the Air Force. It's just that...he never got a call back from the CG recruiter. :P.
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    08 Dec 2009 05:38 PM
    He got out of the navy about 1 year ago and is losing rank and etc. He had wanted to make the switch before I started thinking about it and he could not because of tattoos but then they recently revised the policy in the cg and now he can do it. So just a long awaited thing I guess...

    How bad is the new ME rate locked up?? and thanks... I thought it was HS but I know almost everything ends in tech anyways haha. I will have to let him know..
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    08 Dec 2009 06:53 PM
    ME list isnt accepting any more names. probanly a year and half is projected right now.
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    08 Dec 2009 07:22 PM
    wow thats nuts... he is not gonna be happy
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    08 Dec 2009 07:46 PM
    Tell him that in the Coast Guard, our primary law enforcement officers consist of BM's and MK's. If he wants to do LE, those are the way to go. The ME will mainly be the trainers.


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    08 Dec 2009 09:29 PM
    from what we understood the me will replace the le duties of the others... but he will def check it out..thanks
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    08 Dec 2009 09:40 PM
    Do the math yourself: What would it cost to add one or two LE crewmen to every boat crew in the Coast Guard? How many more people would it take? And what would these people do between boardings, or during SAR cases? Play acey deucey?
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    08 Dec 2009 10:37 PM
    Here is a quote from the USCG Personnell Service Center regarding the ME Rating: The full webpage is: http://www.uscg.mil/epm/AO/ME.asp


    DESCRIPTION OF THE ME RATING: 

    A cadre of professionals well grounded in knowledge and skills pertaining to law enforcement and security duties.  As such, members of this rating can be expected to be assigned challenging duties including traditional maritime law enforcement, anti-terrorism force protection, port security and safety, as well as providing unit-level training in these fields.  Additionally these missions will continue to be carried out as collateral duties for those in other ratings. 


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    09 Dec 2009 12:24 AM
    the military has done not so smart things before so ya never know what they are thinking wepprop.. we were just going off of the information we had been given by our recruiter and the stuff he had found online. I know what makes sense versus what could happen.

    I think that info opens up some more options for him pepperdoggie. He was an AE active duty on hawkeyes and he is a AE/MA in the reserves but put in his request to go back active before he went through MA A school. He wanted to do police officer in the civilian world but missed his opportunity and although he has clearances in the military he did not think he could get them in the civi force. He is really thinking law type is the way he wants to finish out...
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    09 Dec 2009 12:27 AM
    im going with everyone else here ME will not replace the law enforment there is roughly 1200 billets or so for them. they will not replace a BM or MK and they will be more for specialty knowledge and training and the stations.
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    09 Dec 2009 01:27 AM
    sounds good. I will pass that along to him so maybe one of the alternatives is better suited...
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    14 Dec 2009 10:09 PM
    ME will not just be "trainers" they are taking over ALL Coast Guard Police Departments and be at a lot of sectors, cutters, stations, etc. Other rates will still do LE but an ME will be your primary boarding officer and the subject matter specialist.
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    15 Dec 2009 05:11 PM
    macmac i dotn see that as correct because you are still going to have other BO some of the stations are getting 1 ME1 and 2ME3 this isnt enough to work all the boardings. they will be doing boardings but they will be teh specialty knowledge of the station if there is questions that come up they will be doing the training. There not goign to take over all the jobs
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    16 Dec 2009 01:21 PM
    We heard they would become the primary LE not right away of course because the rate needs time to build but eventually they would be taking over... and eventually being in years.
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    16 Dec 2009 02:10 PM
    HTurner said...
    We heard they would become the primary LE...


    I believe that's a true statement but I also believe y'all are misunderstanding what it means. It doesn't mean that every Boarding Team Officer at every Coast Guard unit will be an ME. It doesn't even mean there will necessarily be ME's at every operational unit.

    It does mean they will be the LE subject matter experts. So, ME's at an operational unit will do some of the boardings themselves and, the rest of the time, they will be responsible for the (initial and proficiency) training of the other boarding team officers and boarding team members at that unit.
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