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28 Oct 2010 08:47 PM
I've just met a couple of boot to A school who get out with crows and try to tell me off that I am waiting for a rate and how funny it is that I have to sand, paint, stand crewman.
Personally I think boot to A school shouldn't be allowed, and reservists should have to wait their time on the lists like active do, but thats my .2

I considered going OS, but being in CIC in heavy waves+me dont mix.
Did your recruiter ever say, hey you can be a nonrate in the fleet and wait on the list?
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28 Oct 2010 08:51 PM
I've just met a couple of boot to A school who get out with crows and try to tell me off that I am waiting for a rate and how funny it is that I have to sand, paint, stand crewman.


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Don't take it personal. At the end of the day your experiences are going to make you a better Petty Officer. When you finally make it to "A" school and pin on your crows, you'll know you earned them.
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29 Oct 2010 06:12 AM
@E Honestly no not once, but I'm okay with that. I'm sure it wasnt the,"smartest" thing to do, but hey you learn as you go.
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30 Oct 2010 02:37 AM
I'm not complaining about my choice to go os. I chose os because like alec i do not feel as if i will make it a career, and the mst list was not moving. I think i fell back a few spots within this year of being on the list. Sure i'll have to obliserv 4 more years extending my active duty service by 2 years making it 6 like him(not the most appealing part of it all), but its a quick rate... I.e. Making rank quick... Alec: i think that it is great that you got boot to a, but you definately would be a better po if you spent time as a non-rate painting, sanding, being on a boat crew. There are os' around that ask us to do stuff at my station and they have no clue about what they are asking us to do. My ood will sit with his head in his hands asking himself why he has to deal with them (in harsher words) because the boot to a people have no clue what station people have to do when we are being sent out on a sar case. They do not see what we see (i.e. Torn up/rotting bodies). But anyway in my opinion having station experience will make me a stronger os and i'm hoping i will not be one of the os' that my ood and fellow shipmates here at my station talk bad about. So my suggestion is when you get out of a school see about going tdy(after you are qualified) to a station to get an understanding of what we do on a daily basis and what its like to really be operational. Good luck and hope to see you in a school. I should be leaving for the march class!
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01 Nov 2010 08:25 PM
I'm one of the few OS's that actually spent time out "in the fleet" and am now at a sector.  The fact of the matter is, most OS's that go from boot-to-a end up HATING their job because they expect to be "in the sh*t" (for lack of a better phrase) and they don't realize that your behind the scenes.  OS is an important job, don't get me wrong, but don't come into it expecting to be on TV for all of your courageous actions and be awarded the Gold Livesaving Medal for saving a burning baby in the surf.

as an OS your not Ashton Kutcher in "The Guardian", you just tell "The Guardian" where to go/what to do/when to go/and what to look for
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19 Nov 2010 03:00 PM
I was boot to A. I really did not have a choice other than wait another year to even get in. I had already waited close to 2 years to even get in. My recruiter had told me we'd probably be waiting til October to even talk again. So I was pretty disappointed until he one day called me and told me that I had one chance to go to boot camp anytime soon and that was to go to guaranteed OS school. I don't understand why most boot to A people have to go around acting like they're the sh*t for lack of a better word and make the rest of us look terrible. Or maybe I just have a good personality? I don't know but I treat the non-rates just like I treat thirds like I treat seconds and firsts. I am friends with pretty much everyone. It's just my personality I guess, I can get along with everyone. I totally respect people who go to the fleet first cause I would've liked to have done that first probably too if I could've. Funny looking back on it I probably could've opted out of guaranteed school at picks during boot but as a scared E-1 I really didn't want to ask questions. Now I'm an OS3 onboard a 270' down here in Key West. I know everybody always has that assumption "everyone who goes boot to 'A' for OS ends up hating it cause they think they're going to be right in the action!" Well perhaps they should've done some research because I knew going into it that it is all about comms, radar navigation, message processing etc. I guess I'm breaking that mold too because I personally love it so far. All the other OS's in my shop are awesome. My Chief is really cool. I was proficient in every class at school and now I'm fitting right in at work too. all I'm trying to say is don't write off people just because they're boot to 'A', it's not like I'm a sh*tbag because my recruiter told me that was the only option. I still go to work, stand duty, stand double watches, and wear the same uniform as everyone else.
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20 Nov 2010 08:19 AM
as an OS your not Ashton Kutcher in "The Guardian", you just tell "The Guardian" where to go/what to do/when to go/and what to look for

We were going to pull in at 0800, at like 0200 we get told there is a toi we need to intercept, we need to head to this position which is a 48 hour old position. No information on color/type of vessel, people on board, speed, destination, anything. Our OOD was speechless but responded "Understand we are heading to position ... a 48 hour old position, looking for a ghost boat." lol.

Setnicky, it doesn't happen a lot aboard your cutter, go to the other big one or the sector. The biggest people that have a problem with boot to A and earning crows is the Navy MAs. They LOVE to hate on CG nonrates because it's the only people below them. We had a meeting for our housing and one of the MA guys told my friend who is an SN to stand up because he took his seat but the guy was in the wrong row, at the end of it, the MA wanted to report the SN to our command for stealing his chair.

Overall, I don't care how you got your crows whether you went to fleet or went boot to a, I care about my career and earning my crows, so do your job, and ill keep painting and sanding lol.
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20 Nov 2010 12:51 PM
you will regret OS ...I would know...I am one.
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20 Nov 2010 02:33 PM
Carissamarie,

How do you know that an individual will like or not like a rate? Are you telling me that all OS's in the Coast Guard hate their job? I seriously doubt it. You are unhappy with your rate AND your assignment. MY question is what are you doing personally to find enjoyment out of either? Negativity breads negativity.
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20 Nov 2010 11:32 PM
Yeah Carissa Idk, you're an OS at a COMMSTA in Alaska and I'm on a 270' in Key West. Two different beasts. I don't know. I have found nothing that would make me hate it yet. I'm going on patrol very soon maybe I'll have a better idea post patrol but as of now I have no regrets and I love it. E... Navy people will do as they do. It's whatever. I'll do my job and you do your job and you pursue your dreams. screw what anyone else thinks.
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21 Nov 2010 12:10 AM
they are always trying to catch me riding dirty lol. I get randomly inspected at least 4-6 times a month. I live with most of them any they're alright. There is a few that are bad apples, but I still laugh when they salute you and call you sir. I love to fill them in that they just saluted someone below them.
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21 Nov 2010 05:35 AM

setnicky,

 

Sorry, I have a bad habit about speaking in generalities and I didn't mean that ALL boot to a schoolers don't do their research, but a lot of people just pick the rate to get in, and I understand that.  Another problem with it is that most rates DON'T know what OS's do, and a lot of recruiters just go off of the general job description.  So I apologize if I offended you.  You seem like you're a great guy and you'll enjoy your job.

 

Carissa, being an OS isn't that bad.  I don't know about you, but I personally enjoy only working 12-15 days a year here at Sector.

 

E:  That was probably the IS's fault, not the OS.  We get the intelligence, and pass it along.  Believe me, an OS didn't make a decision to send you on a 48 hr old ghost boat chase.  I feel your pain too....I was also on a 110 that operated unter SKW TACON, and I chased my fair share of boats that didn't exist.  If you really want to know how things work upstairs, ask your OPS BM2/BM1 to take you to the command center.  SKW has a nice command center, and they'll be happy to explain why they do the things that they do. 

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21 Nov 2010 08:27 AM
Husband, I forgot you were down here on 110s also. My first chase was a weather balloon, so pumped up on watch lol. Ive made it to the front door of the command center, but its hard enough for ops to get inside. I bet you did the same but we take OS underway with us. They usually have a "are you kidding me" when we turn around and power to a ghost boat, so I guess it makes sense about what you are saying.
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21 Nov 2010 11:02 AM

No, we never had an OS u/w with us.  That must be something new they are doing down there.  I miss the Op tempo of the 110's.  I was on the Ocracoke.

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21 Nov 2010 06:16 PM
Im sure id like being an OS much better if I was on a cutter.
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21 Nov 2010 08:49 PM
Colin just got back from patrol and they chased a log. He was on the radio and when they identified it as a log other people around him said he looked like he had a gut shot! He was so pumped and so excited... a log. Bummer. Then they got another hit... the ship was out there, all electronics on board, 3 or 4 outboards, everything in tact, clean, operational... not a soul in sight! Colin said it was a ghost ship and they needed to just quietly leave the area! LOL He had a few people cracking up as he was insisting it was either ghosts or pirates. Colin has a very warped sense of humor... I don't know where he gets that from! HAHAHAHA
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22 Nov 2010 08:04 AM
Thanks Husband... E that's so weird that they inspect you so many times.

Lol funny moment today I got off duty and we were leaving base, and the guy in front of me another OS was in his mustang... about to pass the gate house and the navy guy walked out and was like HEY! and put his hand out to him but he just kept driving lol, so as I passed him he turned and looked to watch him drive away and threw his arm up "REALLY!?" lmao. I don't know what he wanted to stop him for anyway lol. I don't think anyone coulda stopped him he just got off weekend duty. he was outta there.
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25 Nov 2010 09:22 AM
So did they ever find out why there was a vacant ship floating around the ocean?
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25 Nov 2010 01:43 PM
sometimes we pick up migrants and stuff off them, spray paint them and leave it. We had one boat that we thought was sinking as it was taking on water, 3 days later we rolled up on it again about 60 miles from where it originally was.
Bunch of reasons though why there is derelict vessels.
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26 Nov 2010 07:26 AM
As far as I was told, no answer as to why that ship was sitting out there just empty and soulless. I don't think it was a migrant ship because it probably cost more than most migrants homes. Migrants are generally in a 46 Chevy or a 2x4 with a sheet for a sail!
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26 Nov 2010 08:34 AM

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There are about 19,230,293 reasons why a boat could be "unmanned and adrift".  It could've lost its anchor line and drifted out, somone could've fallen overboard and we never heard about it, it could've been stolen and used to transport migrants/drugs and abandonded.  Usually if a boat is stolen, the vandals usually "strip" the boat, or take anything of value off of it.  It is a little weird that it was way offshore and unmanned, but you never know what could've happened. 

Unfortunatley, we do not get to EVERY call, and something may have happened, but my bet is that it was used for some dirty business and abandonded because the people that used it didn't want to get caught "sailing dirty" lol

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26 Nov 2010 10:28 AM
hahaha. they tryna catch me sailin' dirty!
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"Sir, do you know why we stopped you?"
"sailing dirty"
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29 Nov 2010 08:11 AM
I don't doubt for one minute there are a multitude of reasons why it was out there like it was, I was jsut stating as far as I was aware, no reason was given as to what it was doing out there. Someone may very well know the exact reason, including Colin, but I just may not be privy to the answer. I don't want to speculate what the reason so the best answer was "As far as I know, no reason for it to be there."
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29 Nov 2010 08:05 PM
What kinds of further qualifications can you get as an OS?  I know you can become a boarding team member, but does anyone know of other qualifications?
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29 Nov 2010 08:21 PM
In order for an OS to become a BTM/BO you'll need to be attached to a cutter, keep that in mind. As long as you are motivated you can qualify at any watch station at the unit with command approval.
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03 Dec 2010 09:45 AM
I didn't know that I'd need to be attached to a cutter (makes sense though). Any other qualifications that come to mind? When I spoke to an OS Chief, he said there would be lots of opportunities for me to do things "in the field" if I chose to become certified. I really wish I would have asked what else he meant besides BTM/BO.
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04 Dec 2010 05:37 AM
The qualifications you are eligible for are determined by the unit your unit and rate. There is no need for BO/BTMs at Sectors, so you won't be trained as one. However, if you're motivated you might be able to train in OS positions above your pay grade with Command approval.
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04 Dec 2010 07:19 AM
Oh ok. That makes sense. Thanks
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11 Dec 2010 08:06 AM
The one thing I will miss is being Operational here at my small boat station. I love getting underway on small boats and splicing lines! But I refuse to become a bm i can't drive a boat for the life of me... well i could for the life of me but i would not enjoy it.
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