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10 Jan 2010 12:31 AM
    INVESTIGATOR (IV)


    As an IV, you'll provide support to Coast Guard law enforcement and intelligence missions. You'll conduct both criminal and personal background investigations, collect and analyze intelligence information and provide personal protection services to high-ranking Coast Guard officials and other VIPs.

    Types of Duty:

    Possible assignments include criminal investigations for crimes relating to Coast Guard missions, interagency law enforcement and liaison operations, investigations into felony violations of the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ), protective services operations, or law enforcement information collection.

    Qualifications:

    To enlist in this program, you must attend the Reserve Direct Officer Program. You must also be a graduate of a basic police or criminal investigator academy and be currently serving as a law-enforcement officer with a minimum of three year's experience.

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    Correspondence courses and on-the-job training provide the majority of your required training. Depending on the nature of your assigned duty, additional training at the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center in Glynco, GA may be provided.

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    21 Feb 2011 12:03 PM
    So in order to put your name on this list you must have current police experience?
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    05 Aug 2012 12:00 PM
    Perhaps I'll be able to learn more when I'm actually in the Reserves, but does anyone have anymore information about this rating?

    I don't meet all the qualifications right now(only 2.5 years in LE right now), and the USCG Recruiting video about this rating said at least 30 college credits prior to applying...is this a rating I could pursue after time in the reserves, additional experience in Law Enforcement and after I get my credits? Is it something like a strikeable rating where I can try for it down the road in my CGR career?

    Thanks!
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    01 Sep 2012 10:32 PM
    The members of this rating recruit for their own. This isn't a rating that you place your name on a school list for.
    You can meet the standard, or you can set the standard. It's your choice.
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    25 Mar 2013 09:16 PM
    The members of this rating recruit for their own. This isn't a rating that you place your name on a school list for.
    Very true. The recruitment process for IV kind of goes in reverse as opposed to the other ratings. For those interested in becoming an IV, they will first interview w/ the CGIS detachment, then go through the recruitment process. This is done to ensure they are suitable for CGIS before the recruiter invests a lot of time and effort into bringing them into the CG.
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    23 Apr 2013 10:16 AM
    The information contained within this forum is pretty accurate, though I'll add one caveat.

    There have been several CG Reservists who have switched ratings to become an IV. Though, they are all people who still meet all of the aforementioned criteria. The process is fluid and changes based on the thoughts and focus of the Director. If you are interested in being an IV, there are several benefits to being a different rate first. As an IV, you have less oversight and involvement from others as to your readiness. You will receive information about what you need to do to maintain your readiness, but often times that is where the information flow stops. So the more versed you are with the standards and requirements expected of a CG reservist, the less this will affect you as an IV. Hopefully that made sense.

    If you are a current CG reservist and meet the other criteria to be an IV, contact your local CGIS office and inquire. Also, the better your resume looks in your civilian LE role, the better you will look as an applicant to CGIS. If you are first told that there aren't any open billets (as is often the case) keep checking back.
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    Posted By CWhitmarsh on 23 Apr 2013 11:16 AM
    The information contained within this forum is pretty accurate, though I'll add one caveat.

    There have been several CG Reservists who have switched ratings to become an IV. Though, they are all people who still meet all of the aforementioned criteria. The process is fluid and changes based on the thoughts and focus of the Director. If you are interested in being an IV, there are several benefits to being a different rate first. As an IV, you have less oversight and involvement from others as to your readiness. You will receive information about what you need to do to maintain your readiness, but often times that is where the information flow stops. So the more versed you are with the standards and requirements expected of a CG reservist, the less this will affect you as an IV. Hopefully that made sense.

    If you are a current CG reservist and meet the other criteria to be an IV, contact your local CGIS office and inquire. Also, the better your resume looks in your civilian LE role, the better you will look as an applicant to CGIS. If you are first told that there aren't any open billets (as is often the case) keep checking back.

    As an IV for the past 8 years, I'd have to say this is spot on.  Most CGIS dets look for applicants that have a wide civilian LE background and CGR background.
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    24 Apr 2013 09:49 AM
    Another sincere thank you to you both.

    I have been in LE for three years, with 5 years of 911 experience before I transferred over. The IV rating is what initially caught my eye in the CGR. Part of why I decided to go CGR is to get my degree so I can get into federal LE later on down the road. Your posts have offered a lot of insight into what I need to do to go IV/CGIS.

    Thank you again.
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    19 Feb 2014 11:24 PM
    Is there any other way to get into IV if you are not currently a LEO?
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    20 Feb 2014 05:32 AM
    Probably not. I hate to say absolutely not because there are always exceptions to rules but I'm thinking this one is just about a ZERO exception to that LE requirement.
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    20 Feb 2014 07:58 AM
    Thank you Sir. It makes sense. 1811 special agents have a lot of liability that I am sure the CG doesnt just hand out.
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    25 Feb 2014 07:10 AM
    I tried for a position that opened up at TRACEN Petaluma when I was a month away from boot camp. At that point I had just over 3 years in law enforcement and was/still am currently employed in civilian LE. Even that wasn't enough. Even though the minimum requirement is 3 years and currently employed in the field, I think they want more. CPORJM can probably answer that question better though.
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    25 Feb 2014 08:20 AM
    Posted By jond36 on 20 Feb 2014 12:24 AM
    Is there any other way to get into IV if you are not currently a LEO?

    Nope, and that is a hard and fast rule.  Even if you're currently working as a LEO, but just barely make the 3 year experience cut, you more than likely won't be selected.  CGIS wants applicants with a wide spectrum of experience for the IV rate.
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    15 Feb 2015 01:32 PM
    I am looking into a career in the reserves. There is an opening for IV3 in my area, but am more interested in ME rating. I have all the qualifications for IV, but was wondering if it is possible to cross train as ME or switch ratings. I know that ME "A" schools have wait lists of a year or more, but I am willing to wait because I want to stay in for as long as the CG will let me. One last factor that may effect the situation is that I'm 39 yoa. I appreciate any info you guys can give me.
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    15 Feb 2015 06:08 PM
    So are you seeking info on the ME rating or IV rating? You can't be in one rating and cross train for another. You can, however, enlist in one rating and lateral to another after a few years. However, you should know that IV billets come along VERY rarely, usually as the result of retirements. It's not often that billets are added. I have been an IV for the past 10 of my 14 years in the CG. I wasn't until the last two years that we added some bodies. If you have any questions about the IV rate, feel free to contact me.
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    15 Feb 2015 06:09 PM
    At your age and if you don't have any prior military service you're coming in under the RX program which means you need a rate determination package before being accepted for DEPOT. You better hurry up considering there is only one DEPOT class left for FY15 which is May 10th. You graduate as a PO3 in the rating you qualified for and wanted, you don't attend A school.
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    15 Feb 2015 07:19 PM
    Posted By CPORJM on 15 Feb 2015 07:08 PM
    So are you seeking info on the ME rating or IV rating? You can't be in one rating and cross train for another. You can, however, enlist in one rating and lateral to another after a few years. However, you should know that IV billets come along VERY rarely, usually as the result of retirements. It's not often that billets are added. I have been an IV for the past 10 of my 14 years in the CG. I wasn't until the last two years that we added some bodies. If you have any questions about the IV rate, feel free to contact me.
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    Thanks for the info CPORJM.
    There is currently an IV billet for my area.  At least that's what is listed on the website.  In the description of the IV rating it talks about personnel protection and security details.  Is this something that happens very often, or is it mostly assisting other Investigators during your drill weekends?  Also, I am on my Police Departments Special Response Team.  Is there anything like this available for someone in IV?
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    15 Feb 2015 08:01 PM
    Posted By thestormiscoming on 15 Feb 2015 07:09 PM
    At your age and if you don't have any prior military service you're coming in under the RX program which means you need a rate determination package before being accepted for DEPOT. You better hurry up considering there is only one DEPOT class left for FY15 which is May 10th. You graduate as a PO3 in the rating you qualified for and wanted, you don't attend A school.

    Thanks thestormiscomnig.

    Do you know how long that process usually takes?
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    Posted By kycop107 on 15 Feb 2015 08:19 PM
    Posted By CPORJM on 15 Feb 2015 07:08 PM
    So are you seeking info on the ME rating or IV rating? You can't be in one rating and cross train for another. You can, however, enlist in one rating and lateral to another after a few years. However, you should know that IV billets come along VERY rarely, usually as the result of retirements. It's not often that billets are added. I have been an IV for the past 10 of my 14 years in the CG. I wasn't until the last two years that we added some bodies. If you have any questions about the IV rate, feel free to contact me.
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    Thanks for the info CPORJM.
    There is currently an IV billet for my area.  At least that's what is listed on the website.  In the description of the IV rating it talks about personnel protection and security details.  Is this something that happens very often, or is it mostly assisting other Investigators during your drill weekends?  Also, I am on my Police Departments Special Response Team.  Is there anything like this available for someone in IV?

    Greetings, protection details only occur if the COMDT is coming to your area, or if personnel are needed for an out of country detail.  CGIS Reservists work differently than Reservists in the rest of the CG.  You'll be assisting on investigations, but usually not on weekends.  It's not uncommon to get a call/email with a day or two notice asking for your assistance.  As for SRT, we have no such thing.  Finally, the CGR website is not accurate in terms of what's available right now.  Your best bet is to contact the CGIS office nearest you for up to date info.

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    Well, you'll need a qualifying prescreen with a recruiter, a physical from MEPS, an interview with your nearest CGIS agent, your case will be reviewed at CGIS HQ then routed back down to the recruiter. Then you need to submit when you'd like to attend DEPOT (one date left for FY15), pass a credit check and police records check at least 23 days before your DEPOT date. That's a lot of paperwork and routing, which is why I suggest getting on it now if you qualify for the IV rating. I can't give you a specific amount of time the process will take in your case.
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    Not to be the bearer of bad news, but the hiring process for CGIS is just like that of a civilian police department, and can take just as long. Factor that in with the recruiting process, and I'd say it's unlikely you'll make it in time for the DEPOT class in May.
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    22 Jun 2019 10:34 AM
    Preliminary info gathering but I have some questions. Current AD ME switching to reserves next year, E5 and plan on making E6 after going to SELRES. Currently in the process to become an 1811 SA. Getting out in 2020 as of now. I was going to do a couple years in my reserve time then try and switch to IV. How would that work? Would I apply to CGIS like everyone else or put a special packet together? Kicking between OCS and IV but I'm pretty sure I would enjoy IV more so.

    edit: just to add, i have past 5 years prior LE non detective and a bachelors degree. Also the jobs I've been offered all give me CITP in training so that'll be met.
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    22 Jun 2019 09:06 PM
    In a nutshell, you'll need to have a minimum of three years civilian LE experience (whether that be local, State or Fed) to apply to CGIS.  Since you have five years already, that's one less hurdle for you, but you would still need to be working in the LE field at the time of application. Also know that there would need to be an available billet at the CGIS office that you want to go to.  

    You'd start the application process by sending a resume to the local CGIS office.  If that looks good, then you would be scheduled for a written test and interview panel.  If that goes well, you'd be set up for your polygraph.  If no issues there, then it's on to your background investigation (you'll actually have two backgrounds done-one for CGIS and one for your TS clearance).  Once that's all done, the Director of CGIS  gives it a final review.  If he decides to bring you on, then orders will be cut transferring you to your local CGIS office.  

    As a side note, being a Reservist in CGIS is not like being a Reservist at say, a STA.  You're totally responsible for making sure that you get all your IDT periods and ADT done.  There's no set weekend (i.e the third weekend of each month).  In fact, you're often not coming in on weekends at all. That being said, that also gives you a tremendous amount of freedom in planning your IDT/ADT periods.  For example, you can stack your IDT periods, which would allow you to skip a month, but still stay on track for a qualifying year.

    Any other questions, let me know
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    Great thank you Chief. So, does anything change In the application process because I would currently be a reservist? Also, I would already have A TS clearance, could that speed things up? Other than that, it seems pretty straight forward. I would currently be holding an job at the time of me applying. That sounds like a great schedule and is something I think that would benefit me more so than the rigid one weekend a month 2 weeks out of the year. Thank you.
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    23 Jun 2019 08:38 AM
    Another question. What's the path to warrant like in the reserves? Guy in my office went cgis recently and he said it's about 1.5 years AD side. Wasn't sure selres though.
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    23 Jun 2019 11:15 AM
    1.5-2 years is about normal for AD. It might take a little longer if you don't get selected on your first go round. SELRES has almost no warrant billets. There are exactly three. One in Alameda, one in Cleveland, and one in DC. The reason for the huge number on the AD side is that it provides a means for AD folks to promote, otherwise they'd spend their CGIS career working out of rate. SELRES has the IV rating.
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    23 Jun 2019 08:13 PM
    Got it. So just promotable up to E9 then depending on billet availability? I assume you have to attend CPO academy in Alameda as well?
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    24 Jun 2019 10:57 AM
    Correct.  However, because it's such a small rating, getting to Chief and beyond is a challenge.  There are only 12 IVCS billets and three IVCM.
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    Got it. Thanks Chief for that info. Really good stuff.
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    Posted By stealthtt24 on 24 Jun 2019 09:00 PM
    Got it. Thanks Chief for that info. Really good stuff.

    No problem.  Best of luck!
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